New Intel chips always had such poor yields that they couldn't supply enough at once for Apple - that's the story I've been hearing for a few years now.
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Apple Transitioning Macs to Custom Chips With 'Incredible' Performance Starting Later This Year
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New Intel chips always had such poor yields that they couldn't supply enough at once for Apple - that's the story I've been hearing for a few years now.
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Did you watch the keynote? The first Mac with Apple's custom ARM chip will be available later this Fall 2020. What Tim Cook said is that the entire Mac lineup will transition to Apple's custom silicon within two years, not that the first product will be available starting in two years.
You're exactly the sort of person who would be.
Less "committed" users are perhaps less excited. Or dismayed even.
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Yes I did.
Did you read what I wrote? It would seem not.
"I am not waiting 6 months for an iMac model I probably don't want, and perhaps 2 years for the one I do?"
Are you expecting top end Apple silicon iMac's by the end of 2020? 27" or larger, Navi graphics or better? No chance. We'll see a couple of low end 24" screen jobs at best.
Top end 27"+ models are 1 year away at least IMO. Heck - they are releasing Intel iMac's later this year.
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You can’t virtualise Windows on an ARM based CPU. This would require an emulator.
In 2 years Intel will be on 7nm with a fresh new arhitecture and AMD will be on Zen 4 with 4 threads/core. I really doubt Apple will be able to eclipses Intel/AMD CPUs in performance.
I will agree that the use-case for GUI Mode (i.e. using a desktop) Linux VM's on Macs is pretty minimal. I've done it once or twice, to help resolve issues for a client's staff member who was using Ubuntu (they were using Ubuntu on PC hardware, I just virtualised it).
But the use-case for "headless" (i.e. no desktop, generally no UI shown at all) Linux VMs on Macs is fairly common for developers. It isn't the only use, but it seems to be the one non-tech people are becoming familiar with, so keep this in mind: any time you hear "Docker on Mac", that means a Linux VM, inside which the various containers run.
More precisely, any time you hear “docker on mac” it means an x86 Linux vm. Those days are numbered. In my line of work, docker with arm containers are nowhere to be found. I mean, I know they exist theoretically, but I’ve never encountered one in the wild.
I have an iPad Pro, well I hope you right but history dictates Apple moving from x86 to a new CPU is not going to be easy, the fact TSMC are making the same chip for AMD as Apple doesn’t mean it will be the same performance, it has taken AMD a long time to get its RND to this level, if it was that easy Intel would do the same. AMD have nothing like the thermal problems Intel has! They are the one that is smoking Intel and why Apple have been pushed to switch, and comparing the A series to a large multi core CPU is far from equality, they may both be 5nm but I like many others need a large multi core computer and the A series could be years From achieving that. Don’t believe all the hype .
Sry if this has already been stated (too lazy to read all 51 pages of posts), but Apple failed to mention several things:
Q: What is the future of Thrunderbolt?
A: USB 4 (https://www.tomshardware.com/news/apple-mac-macbook-arm-usb-4)
Q. What is the future of eGPUs?
A: ARM is not likely compatible (https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/would-an-arm-mac-be-compatible-with-an-egpu.2165273/)
Q: Is apply abandoning the pro user or will they still retain some Intel based machines?
A: I can't imagine the pro user is a significant percentage of Apple sales. How many people are buying a ~$60k cheese grater?
Q: What is the future of Thrunderbolt?
A: USB 4 (https://www.tomshardware.com/news/apple-mac-macbook-arm-usb-4)
Q. What is the future of eGPUs?
A: ARM is not likely compatible (https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/would-an-arm-mac-be-compatible-with-an-egpu.2165273/)
Q: Is apply abandoning the pro user or will they still retain some Intel based machines?
A: I can't imagine the pro user is a significant percentage of Apple sales. How many people are buying a ~$60k cheese grater?
The released (aka "current") models are all still for sale, in the App Store, or through your preferred reseller. Apple released no new products, and discontinued no old products.
Wait but you just said they are "unpurchasable" (I love when people make up words). So they are in fact "purchasable" (or "ununpurchasable", if you prefer), but you personally don't see the value in a product that until the keynote, you had no issues with.
... buy an iMac?
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Well you can, but it'll be the version of Windows built for ARM CPUs.
Like they need to do that when they have access to AMD/Nvidia windows drivers anyway.
I'm more inclined to believed Apple is interested to keep a secret they way their GPUs are built so Nvidia doesn't sue them.
Assuming developers invest the time to do so (knock on wood).
Yeah that's the only logical explanation. You can't make a high performance GPU without infringing upon Nvidia's/AMD's patents.
Even Intel has a deal signed with AMD to be able to build their own GPU.
You're using an 8-year-old computer. You are not a customer.
I'm in the same boat, I am using a 2009 iMac as my main machine. I'll hold out and see what support my Firewire audio interface will have (maybe this will be the transition that removes Firewire support?). If I do need to replace the audio interface, it's basically as old as the Mac so I can't say I haven't gotten my money's worth from both.
Lol I am one of those that could not wait, but thankfully I upgraded my aging Mac Pro instead! what email & texts did I get last night from many industry freinds that have forked out thousands on a new Mac Pro, disappointment and a feeling of betrayal. As one of them put ; Tim Cook 6 months ago “I’ve never been more excited about the future of the Mac Pro” - yesterday after ditching Intel “I’ve never been more excited about the future of the Mac”
I expect Apple will offer customer a replacement motherboard for their Mac Pro but you think it’s going to be cheap? Besides the x86 platform has been around decades a lot of the Mac Pro is centred around this, I doubt Apple are going to be able design a customer motherboard including compatible PCI-e slots for existing hardware quickly, that means customer video cards, audio cards etc etc what ever way you look at it, it’s going to cost pro users that invested heavily in a New Mac Pro 6months ago are in for a rocky expensive ride over the next few years.
The Intel transition was, for a lot of users, time consuming and expensive. So I think pro users in particular will continue to prefer Intel chips until everything is fully vetted. I, for one, am going to need a lot more than Craig Federighi saying "it's super fast" over and over again like a teenager reading a car magazine. What's helpful in this case is that companies like Adobe will still obviously continue to develop for Windows and will therefore still be compiling x86 versions of everything. So Mac users who prefer to hold out will likely be able to do so for a lot longer than they could during the PPC era, when the architecture was rapidly consigned to the dustbin of history.
Most people - those without bias - are none too excited about buying at full price a product imminiently to be replaced by a later model, no a later entire range. But if you are, knock yourself out.
PS I am sure your child is not ugly.
I've been trying to work out the deeper reasoning behind this, and I'm coming up blank, with one possible exception that seems quite far fetched by the time Intel Macs are no longer supported.
Back in the day, by far the #1 (and for most of us the only) reason to run a Windows VM on a Mac, was to test/debug something using the hugely-"popular", Windows-only browser of the day: Internet Explorer. IE is already dead, the Windows-only "Edge Legacy" (i.e. Edge using the fork of Trident that became EdgeHTML) is essentially dead, and current "Edge" (a) is cross platform and (b) uses the same engine as Chrome anyway.
What are you expecting to need a (x86) Windows VM for, by the time Arm Macs are either (a) available or (b) the only choice for new purchases?
I tend to avoid the nitty gritty of front-end work when I can these days, but to be honest, even if I had a client who insisted on compatibility with some archaic windows only browser, and I wanted/needed to buy a new Mac that had an Arm CPU, I'd just keep my old Mac and RDP or VNC to the Windows VM the few times it's required.
Changing your entire working environment (and, ironically, losing any ability to test your work in Safari on Mac, and the ability to test your work in Safari on any iOS device you like without needing the physical device) sounds quite a lot like cutting off your nose to spite your face.
Look back at the PowerPC days, it didn’t take long for developers to drop the PowerPC platform when Intel took over, it Was quickly apparent no one wanted to spend money developing apps that have a limited lifespan, so apps, drivers, and finally OSX moved on, how long before Apple move from Intel support 4+5 years max..
Definitely the most exciting Mac news in ages
can’t wait to get my hands on an Apple cpu Mac
can’t wait to get my hands on an Apple cpu Mac
You’d rather they keep it a secret? How does that benefit the consumer exactly?