Apple TV 4 and download speeds

Discussion in 'Apple TV and Home Theater' started by smacrumon, Aug 10, 2016.

  1. smacrumon macrumors 68030

    smacrumon

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    What is the minimum broadband requirements for Apple TV 4?

    Internet connection can be patchy at times.

    The below are results from a speed test:

    Download speed:
    1256 kbps (1.26 Mbps)

    Upload speed:
    657 kbps (0.66 Mbps)

    Latency:
    162 ms

    Jitter:
    15 ms

    Packet loss:
    -1%

    What is the likely experience for ATV4 based on the above?
     
  2. benjitek macrumors 6502a

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    Not completely awful if your ATV4 is the only device actively using your internet connection, but that's a pretty slow connection speed for HD multimedia streaming -- the ATV4 is capable of much higher speeds. You're likely to experience a lot of initial stream buffering, and rebuffering once a stream has started regardless of whether you use an ATV4, Roku, or FireTV.
     
  3. smacrumon thread starter macrumors 68030

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    Initial stream buffering probably not such and issue, but rebuffing might be a tad annoying to experience. Thanks for the view.
     
  4. Beerstalker macrumors 6502

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    I have similar internet speed. My WISP is advertised at 2Mbps download, but I tend to get anywhere from 0.5-1.5 on most Speedtest results.

    Downloading Apps on the ATV4 works fine, but running them isn't the greatest. I pretty much only use it for Netflix as that seems to have the best system for adjusting the picture quality for your speed. Sometimes the picture gets down around standard def or worse, but very seldom buffers during a show. Some of the other video streaming apps do not work nearly as well and tend to buffer much more often. I've never even bothered trying to stream a show from iTunes, I just download them to my PC and use home sharing to watch them.
     
  5. smacrumon thread starter macrumors 68030

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    Thanks everyone. So with the download speeds below, what technology is built into Apple TV to cope with slow speeds and create a seamless experience? Or will that not be possible?

    And is it a good time to buy? Macrumours suggests: Caution Approaching End of Cycle

    Download speed: 1256 kbps (1.26 Mbps)
    Upload speed: 657 kbps (0.66 Mbps)
    Latency: 162 ms
    Jitter: 15 ms
    Packet loss: -1%
     
  6. HDFan macrumors 6502

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    What are you streaming? Music, Movies, iTunes content, Netflix, Plex, HBO ... ?

    That's a really slow speed. For SD quality Netflix recommends 3.0 Mbps, 5.0 Mbps for HD and 25 Mbps for Ultra HD:

    https://help.netflix.com/en/node/306

    HBO Go minimum is 3.0 Mbps.

    You shouldn't have a problem streaming music, but any video is either going to have reduced video quality or lots of buffering interruptions.

    According to this post

    http://forums.macrumors.com/threads/atv-4-ethernet-performance-poor.2009303/

    the ATV4 hardware is spec'd to 100 Mbps. I've tested mine running at 94 Mbps. So the hardware can handle even UltraHD with no problem. Your issue is going to be what any specific app does when it doesn't have enough bandwidth to stream. It may reduce video quality, give you buffering interruptions, etc. Netflix does this rather well.
     
  7. Hermes Monster macrumors 65816

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    There's an option in tvOS 10 which will set the quality of playback depending on d/l speeds. Enabling this will reduce buffering somewhat, but you'll likely be watching SD versions of movies.

    I usually have 50Mbps but most evenings I get throttled to ~1Mbps (due to over utilisation locally) and a movie usually buffers anywhere between 1 minute and 1 hour!

    If you know in advance which movie you'd like to watch, you can set it going early and the ATV will cache the whole movie given enough time.
     
  8. Rok73 macrumors 65816

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    This internet connection is absolutely nowhere near a normal standard and simply not sufficient for any device out there. Is there no option to upgrade your contract? Perhaps you're living in a rural area with no alternatives?
     
  9. BeefCake 15 macrumors 65816

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    I would expect a possible announcement no less than a year from now and it would be a modest update and won't discontinue the ATV4 IMHO
     
  10. smacrumon thread starter macrumors 68030

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    Thanks all. It's was for a gift. Some quality loss ain't too bad, but buffering, the kind that interrupts, is just the absolute worst. :)
     
  11. Tech198 macrumors G4

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    Looks pretty low...
    I only get 8Mpbs but only one iTunes movie in HD at a time between 2 Apple TV's before buffering occurs. Even on 1 only, it still happens.. On Apple TV u can always scale it down to 720p under Itunes store.
     
  12. smacrumon thread starter macrumors 68030

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    I'm confused!?! What's the deal with no HDMI cable included with an Apple TV?

    Is Apple trying to create a poor user experience when purchasing the device, or is there a different way to connect it to a TV?
     
  13. satcomer, Dec 11, 2016
    Last edited: Dec 14, 2016

    satcomer macrumors 603

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    To dot some users complaining that the Apple TV 4 is near it's life don't worry in the age of the TV APP store. Most likely the next Apple TV will be 4K with a newer chip. Some of the Apps might have go be updated but just like iOS just wait a few weeks and most of the Apps will be updated for the new Apple TV 5 because I expect it after the new iPhone and iPad are released. I do say between Late June to late Fall of 2017 we can expect an Apple TV 5.
     
  14. PatrycjaKozdra macrumors newbie

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    Be sure to use wifi instead of direct ethernet.... ethernet port is capped just like their airport express.
     

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