And that is why I stick to my ATV. You still have to rip the movies and that is a pain in he butt.
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You don't have to rip the movies using MoviesAnywhere. You just sign up, and they appear in all the other services.
So you still have to have another service for it. You also give them a lot of rights when you sign up, did you read the fine print? Lastly, you have to be in the USA to sign up. I could use a VPN, but I'm not sure I want to do it yet.
I have a Fire TV and just bought an Apple TV 4K. I'm not against the service, but I am looking for a good solution for regular TV outside of AFN.
Now you're just making a lot of excuses. Have you actually read the EULA's fine print of every service you've signed up for? You've likely already given up more rights than you even knew you had.
All you had to say was you live outside the USA and MoviesAnywhere isn't available to you yet. That's reason enough. MA also doesn't offer every movie from every studio yet. So it's limited but it's a reasonable option for most people. Yes it's an extra service, but it's also free, and it's a vastly different effort than your incorrect statement that you have to rip your media to it. For those looking to free themselves from being locked into one platform and ecosystem it's an excellent option.
But good luck to you.
No, I actually read what they stated right up front and you are basically allowing them to share or sell any information they gather on you. It is in bold and you have to check the box to get past it..
I'm not sure I am comfortable with that alone. You can call it what you want, but that is a little over the top even for a regular EULA. As for reading EULA's? Yes, I have actually read a few. I like to know what I am agreeing to allow the company to do with my information.
Again, I stated that it wasn't a bad idea, not sure why you are so defensive, but it isn't a native solution and certainly can't help me without a VPN. No, it isn't a rip, but it again, it is an additional service that you have to rely on to see a movie.
I also noticed that there is a rather large list of movies that aren't available on the service. Again, not earth shattering, but many of these are actually in my movies list, so it is not a total solution. I wish we could get around these stupid DRM issues, but I have yet to find a solid solution other than sticking with one solution. My Fire TV is sitting in a box not being used.
Only supports HDR10, not Dolby Vision (the better HDR format that most new movies are using). I think Apple TV is the only streaming device that supports both HDR formats. If you have a really nice HDR TV, don’t cheap out and miss out on Dolby Vision just to save a few bucks. Otherwise what’s the point in even having a really nice TV.
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Would chromecast suffice? Several devices support casting and with movies anywhere the bulk of purchased movies can be available on any platform.
Apple's own devices support casting, not Apple's apps, but many other apps. I was pleasantly surprised to find the CBSAA app supported casting to my Android TV from my iPhone.
That is interesting... So you have to consent to sign up, but then can opt out? Again, not a bad idea, still lacking in movie availability, but if you have a Fire it is a pretty good solution and a start to bridge the gap. Nevertheless, I will stick with my ATV since I am embedded in the eco system. I will play with my Fire though and see what it can do.
It's not their devices that support casting. It's the developers of the apps that code it in.
Oh really? My Firestick does not connect to my computer/iPad/iPhone, access Apple TV apps among other features.
Right, but Apple devices support it. I'm finding more and more developers support it, which means I don't need an Android phone to cast to Android devices. And that reduces Apple's monopoly on the technology significantly. Now don't get me wrong, I think Casting is crap, difficult to use, and unreliable -- but it reduces the need for an Apple TV for someone who uses that feature.
No, apple devices don't support it. If they did you could cast(chromecast) to them. Casting from them is entirely the software of the apps themselves and no not require the device to support anything.
Now some apps also use the open source DIAL protocol. This enabled casting even before chromecast and lets you cast, say, netflix to tv's and devices that don't support chromecast at all.
Casting is easy to use, push the button. It can be unreliable. Especially on idevices as it can easily lose connection but that's how apple handles sleep and power saving. On one of my BBQ forums people using iphones/ipads constantly complain about losing connection to their bluetooth BBQ probes but that's just how apple handles it.
What's nice about chromcast vs airplay is chromecasts don't require a constant connection to your device. Your device simply tells the chromecast where to go to get the video/audio and it takes it from there. Airplay gets it's feed from your ios device and thus your device must maintain connection.
We're getting mired in semantics. The point being, a person no longer needs an Android phone or tablet to cast to an Android TV, and Apple does nothing to prevent it from working -- yet. But thanks for the detailed explanation of how it all works.