PCs and graphics cards are a different story, which constantly push the bleeding edge. I'm mainly referring to the living room ecosystem. Not even the Xbox One X will have HDMI 2.1.
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Apple TV 4K Reviews: Expensive But With Cheaper 4K Movies, Some Limitations Like 1080p YouTube
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PCs and graphics cards are a different story, which constantly push the bleeding edge. I'm mainly referring to the living room ecosystem. Not even the Xbox One X will have HDMI 2.1.
Pretty sure I'm not. I know 3D seems dead outside of the theatre right now, but it's still built into the specs and I think it'll make a resurgence, once they figure out how to successfully do it at home without glasses.
James Cameron has been one of the biggest proponents for HFR in the theatres. You're going to eventually need that bandwidth to support it at home.
Yes, it could be quite some time, but I'd rather have my next AV receiver last me longer than 5 years.
They're too damn expensive!!!I see Cameron as the 3D pusher and Jackson as the HFR pusher.Pretty sure I'm not. I know 3D seems dead outside of the theatre right now, but it's still built into the specs and I think it'll make a resurgence, once they figure out how to successfully do it at home without glasses.
James Cameron has been one of the biggest proponents for HFR in the theatres. You're going to eventually need that bandwidth to support it at home.
Yes, it could be quite some time, but I'd rather have my next AV receiver last me longer than 5 years.
I agree, but this varies widely depending on location.
For example, the average sized living room size in the US, Australia, or Canada is around the average size of a U.K. Home.
So, a 65" TV might be overkill for many people around the world.
Heh. They've both been pushing it.
I could say "google it", but here's one of the several articles from doing a james cameron HFR search. http://theplaylist.net/james-cameron-will-not-give-high-frame-rates-3d-avatar-movies-20161101/
He wants to use it, buy I don't think he is obsessed with it.Heh. They've both been pushing it.
http://theplaylist.net/james-cameron-will-not-give-high-frame-rates-3d-avatar-movies-20161101/
Oh, that's fair. I had to get a new TV after moving recently and at that point a nice 4K HDR set seemed like the obvious, futureproof choice.
I've been excited for a 4K Apple TV for months, but this article worries me I might be having to return it.
Guess we'll find out Friday when it arrives.
I have a problem with this.
I mean, my OLED supports HDR/DolbyVision from both Netflix & YouTube, with the TV’s built-in apps.
I’d much rather use ATV 4K for all streamed content. Now for YouTube, I cannot do that with the ATV. It effs up the Apple user experience.
Apple is going to lose the streaming box war (?) if they will not support the most popular streaming services. iOS, macOS, watchOS, tvOS are their walled garden. I understand that. However, when some of the world’s most popular content does not fit in Apple’s garden, people will switch gardeners.
On an OS level I understand Apple, and even applaud them. If it reflects to the content level, I will condemn Apple. In that case they are way too high up in their ivory tower.
Apple TV has YouTube. I expect it to work flawlessly, with all content. Otherwise, Apple makes a fool of their vision for AppleTV, which is to provide all content in one box. HDR encoding wars do not support that vision.
Now I have two gripes with Apple with the ATV 4K: forcing SDR into HDR, and not supporting YouTube 4K.
My TV’s native apps function perfectly in both regards. I cannot imagine that Apple is doing worse on their new ATV than an LG OLED is doing with their WebOS apps.
Seriously, FFS!
I was really looking forward to receiving my ATV 4K tomorrow. Not so much, anymore.
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Don't you need a compatible receiver and 9 speakers (2 of them ideally ceiling-fitted) plus a sub, to even begin to get close to a Dolby Atmos experience? I bet the % of people getting their knickers in a twist over the lack of support out of the box, who actually own a home cinema system that can take advantage of it, is negligible.
Also, how much streaming content is there to actually listen to in Dolby Atmos? A quick Google search suggests like... 2 Netflix exclusive movies.
Also, how much streaming content is there to actually listen to in Dolby Atmos? A quick Google search suggests like... 2 Netflix exclusive movies.
1) Even the Apple TV BoX will age and the processor will eventually get slow. That's technology in general.
2) Your best bet is a Roku TV box or a tv with built in Roku support because they have the widest available 4K and HDR streaming apps and they send software updates frequently. Also, YouTube works flawlessly in both 4K and HDR on a Roku TV box.
3) The newest Apple tv already seems outdated since it can only playback YouTube at 1080p.
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Not ordering this quite yet as I have made a few too many purchases in the last month but I almost certainly will be getting this.
Honestly even though this is more expensive than most other streaming boxes I will more than make up the cost with the free 4k upgrade alone
Honestly even though this is more expensive than most other streaming boxes I will more than make up the cost with the free 4k upgrade alone
Well, wait for it first and then bitch. That's how it should be. Preemptive whining is really bad around here.
The current Youtube Apple TV google apps barely works well with 1080P, so you don't think Google has anything to do with that?
And we're not even talking VP9 there.
What about Amazon's dragging its feet, Apple's fault?
They are at war and everyone's using whatever they can to win it, including Google by producing crap for Apple (that's one of the reason Apple made their own map's app on IOS).
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Only if you think Youtube matters, which it does not to me. In fact, steering away from Google's crap is what I do all the time and it serves me well.
Well excuse my bitching, which I rarely do on anything Apple. As for Google’s crap, they bought YouTube. It doesn’t make it crap as a content platform, though, and does not reflect on the quality of its content. Apple’s decision, however, limits the quality of content, in this specific case.
less about taking their time (though that's an issue), and more about them aiming short of the mark when they do release a product. we get less tech than is available the time but pay more than other products. most of us do it because we're invested in their superior software, user experience and universe in general. they could either pay us back for that by recognizing that we pay more and should get more (which would admittedly reduce their margins a bit) OR they could insult us by asking us to pay more for less. Feels like Jobs chose the former, while this administration seems to favor the latter.
Glad I didn't jump on this day one like I usually do. Forced HDR and upscaling is a no go for me. Hopefully apple can implement an "advanced" setting for us who don't mind a little flicker as resolutions change.
ATV should cost $60 and $99 bucks. Honestly, this will drive tons of sales and widespread the device. Apple still make a nice profit out of it. I don't get why still that expensive. Competition have great prices, Apple just need to make it close and will take over.
I can’t think of any streaming service that would impact my life that much. As to the lack of 4k YouTube, well to each his own, but I can’t think of anything I’ve ever seen on YouTube that made me think, “wow this would be so much better in 4k”
got a 4k tv, 4k programming and 4k settop box for streaming 4k content from things like netflix and plex.
I can tell you that overall, the difference between 1080p and 4k isn't going to completely change how people enjoy their movies. the noticability factor from SD to 1080 was siginificantly noticable. 1080 to 4k not so much. the colours are a bit nicer.
Unless the programming you watch takes advantage somehow of the wider colourdepth and resolution in some meaningful way, I'm not convinced most people will notice.
the only time I truly notice the difference where its appreciable on my 60" 4k TV from about 7ft away is Hockey. Hockey watching seems to get better the higher quality you can watch it in.
EXACTLY. Also I could give a f--- about the Youtube app on Apple TV. If I need Youtube I have my Mac or phone....
The Youtube app for Apple TV is not developed by Apple...Google develops it. It has nothing to do with incompatibilities