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do you throw out your tv remotes when the battery runs out or goes bad?
Do you replace the rechargeable batteries in your devices instead of….recharging them?

From the pictures it looks like Apple could have made the battery easier to replace, but considering how infrequently the remotes require charging, they are unlikely to get close to their rated cycles in the lifetime of the ATV.
 
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Do you replace the rechargeable batteries in your devices instead of….recharging them?

From the pictures it looks like Apple could have made the battery easier to replace, but considering how infrequently the remotes require charging, they are unlikely to get close to their rated cycles in the lifetime of the ATV.
If they lose charge over time (as lithium batteries do), then yes.

Your argument is weak at best, there’s a reason airtags have user replaceable batteries.
 
No excuse for making the remote battery difficult to replace. That's a deliberate act on Apple's part.
If its a rechargeable battery, given the number of recharges how many out there ever needed to replace the battery? So far none of my old ATV remotes needed that. So don't see that much of a issue, unless you really want to use a worn out remote.
 
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I toiled away in an AT&T central office for almost 35 years and we were subject to disciplinary action if we got caught handling a circuit pack without ESD protection. Regular refresher courses on ESD were common. They showed us movies of ESD damage to components that were caused by discharges that couldn’t even be felt by the person handling the circuit pack. The company claimed to lose millions of dollars a year because of failed components due to ESD and I believe them.

So I cringe whenever I see these incredibly sensitive components being handled with any ESD protection at all. They may not fail instantly but the damage could take months or years to finally kill the board.
Like I mentioned to a previous poster, these teardowns are primarily for education and explorative purposes. This isn’t a class 3 device where it’s failure or malfunction will cost severe downtime resulting in loss revenue or loss of life.

It’s a $180 streaming box. iFixit doesn’t perform teardowns with the expectation of the device working 100% or being free of damage. Sometimes they break stuff while tearing them down.

In a production environment or repair/rework environment, I agree, proper ESD guidelines must be followed, but the teardown table isn’t it. I’m literally wearing my blue ESD smock and ESD wrist strap while on break at work. The stuff I work on can’t afford to break, but an Apple TV, iPhone, etc can.
 
This is a teardown for the sake of educating and generating a repairability rating. It doesn't matter if it never works again. I'm sure they're assuming they'll break something in the teardown process anyway, esp. with those that score low repairability.
I understand, but they should be showing a tear down in a way that you the viewer can say, I can duo that...and still put it back together again.
 
If they lose charge over time (as lithium batteries do), then yes.

Your argument is weak at best, there’s a reason airtags have user replaceable batteries.
Except thai is a Apple TV 4K, 4K is now so basic that by the time it dies the unit itself will be obsolete as 8K is already out and on the market.
 
I understand, but they should be showing a tear down in a way that you the viewer can say, I can duo that...and still put it back together again.
You can always start your own channel and do it the "right" way. But you'll learn that there is no added value to the audience for being religious about ESD in a video like this, esp. in a teardown where you're literally figuring out how to open the device and disassemble as you go along.

I mean, cooking videos don't show the chef washing their hands before handling either. You're going to wash your hands anyway.

The average viewer will watch for pure entertainment value and tech porn, and then proceed to go spend $59 when their remote breaks, just like everyone else.
 
It is a little baffling that Apple weren't able to create a fan-free Apple TV, but could do so for a laptop.
It's stiill using an old chip from the iPhone X era. I'd guess Apple TV will be the last product to move to M series chips... maybe along with a redesign into a smaller chassis, or maybe even a dongle.
 
Do you really think that you’re going to have to fix or replace the remote? Chances are you’ll buy a new AppleTV first.
takeout AppleCare if you’re worried ( if it’s offered on this product)
 
Doesn't the remote use bluetooth? I have the ATV mounted on the back of my TV, no line of sight whatsoever, and it works flawlessly.
Yes. This was a really odd comment by iFixit. They could have been referring to third-party remotes, which can be paired with the Apple TV over IR, but "that new remote" strongly implies they're talking about the new Siri Remote.

The Siri Remote does include an IR transmitter, but this is only for controlling volume and power on a TV or receiver that doesn't support HDMI-CEC. Everything otherwise runs over Bluetooth and HDMI.
 
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I saw the video yesterday. Seeing how I won' be the one replacing the battery on the remote, as long as Apple has a competent tech who can in a timely manner, that is all that matters to me.
You will likely NEVER have to replace the remote’s battery. A full charge lasts for months so the number of charging cycles will be extremely small, thereby extending the battery’s useful life indefinitely. I have a 12 year old electric Phillips electric razor that still holds a charge for weeks of use. The remote is not a laptop or smartphone. It uses very little energy to operate.
 
You will likely NEVER have to replace the remote’s battery. A full charge lasts for months so the number of charging cycles will be extremely small, thereby extending the battery’s useful life indefinitely. I have a 12 year old electric Phillips electric razor that still holds a charge for weeks of use. The remote is not a laptop or smartphone. It uses very little energy to operate.
I am aware, thanks. :) I have the previous remote as well. I agree with you. The remotes are very energy efficient.
 
The battery in this remote does not need to be made replaceable. This remote will easily last more than 6 years. I sill have one of my Apple TV HD that I’ve owned since day one, I forgot the number of years, but I only charge that remote maybe twice a year.
 
If its a rechargeable battery, given the number of recharges how many out there ever needed to replace the battery? So far none of my old ATV remotes needed that. So don't see that much of a issue, unless you really want to use a worn out remote.
Practically, I agree, not much of an issue for this specific item, if you look at it in a vacuum.

It's more the point that it wouldn't have been difficult for Apple to make it easily accessible / replaceable.

Hearing aids have replaceable batteries....so Apple could have designed AirPods with replaceable batteries, but they chose not to.

A company that supposedly cares about the environment should be making good faith efforts to make the battery replaceable.
 
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You will likely NEVER have to replace the remote’s battery.
On my previous AppleTV's yes... My less than 12 month old Apple TV 4K Siri remote though is only lasting a few hours between charges now.

Hopefully it will be replaced under warranty and I'll get 6 years out of the replacement.
 
On my previous AppleTV's yes... My less than 12 month old Apple TV 4K Siri remote though is only lasting a few hours between charges now.

Hopefully it will be replaced under warranty and I'll get 6 years out of the replacement.
Of course your experience is the exception, not the norm, so it means nothing.
 
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So there's still a fan in it.. I'm really hesitant bringing gadgets with air fans into my bedroom even if everyone say theres no audible sound at all. Sensitive soul. Will probably not be another Apple TV without a fan though. The dilemma. I already have the Apple TV 4K in the living room.
I didn't even know the first ATV 4Ks had fans until I read it here. Do they even run if you are just streaming, or only with intense apps such as games?
 
If its a rechargeable battery, given the number of recharges how many out there ever needed to replace the battery? So far none of my old ATV remotes needed that. So don't see that much of a issue, unless you really want to use a worn out remote.
We don't have betteries in many things, and none of them need replacing much, so we just use the rechargable. Two TV remotes we don't need since ATV automatically turns the TV on and off (well, not in the bedroom for some reason, but we can just turn it off on the TV) Then the weather station for backup and the sensor. I think the only other things are smoke detectors, and we use regular ones in those. Otherwise devices have built in rechargables
 
Of course your experience is the exception, not the norm, so it means nothing.
My experience means nothing? What an arrogant point of view. I never claimed all AppleTv remotes fail, but they should be easier to repair if they make a dud battery. I took the remote into the Apple Store on the day I wrote that last message. They cannot repair it and don't have replacement remotes and had to order one in to replace it. I'm still waiting nearly two weeks later without a remote.
 
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