AppleTv+ is running fine on a FireTV stick, it should run the same, or better, on any smart tv from 2017. If you don't want to support these, at least give us the ability to stream it with chromecast. I'm not going to buy an AppleTv, nor a new TV, for a service with just a bunch of tv series.
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Apple TV App on Select LG Smart TVs Will Support Dolby Atmos Sound 'Later This Year'
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What a strange thing to say. I bought my LG OLETV because LG makes the best TVs in terms of picture quality.
I pretty much expect the software to stink, which is why I use an external Apple TV. LG also didn’t make any promises to update the set and there is little immediate financial benefit to do so.
With that’s said, I certainly can appreciate your frustration but most manufacturers operate the same way.
Car manufacturers are the worst.
I've never heard anyone that thinks upfiring speakers work better than actual speakers above you.
ATMOS (upfiring vs. in ceiling)
I have a quick question that I am hoping people who have ATMOS may be able to answer for me. Currently my theater room is in a small 10 x 11 bedroom but I am planning on moving into the basement once I get some power ran and drywall hung on the walls. This is where my question comes in. I am...
Shield TV not only supports Atmos but decodes more audio than any other device (because Nvidia paid for the lossless licenses). Apple won't license DTS/DTS-HD/DTS:X and Dolby TrueHD/TrueHD+, and for the price of the box, you'd think they would. You can install infuse, but why is that even necessary for such an expensive box? With Shield you get support for everything. Apple pushes everything out as either DD or DD+ (and it adds Atmos metadata if you have a receiver that will handle it), both of which are lossy formats.
FireTV is about the same as the ATV. It's designed for streaming, so yeah.
I have a 13.2 speaker movie theater. An ATV will never set foot in there, it's like putting a volkwagen engine in a Maserati. If you have a theater that's at all decent, don't play lossy audio, it does make a huge difference. If you're only streaming and not playing digital content (blu-ray and/or other protected digital content), yeah, it doesn't matter much, possibly not at all. Any streaming you're going to find will be lossy, but that will start changing as soon as someone points it out to consumers. Keep in mind DD 5.1 is about 25 years old now. Apple's big improvement with the 4K ATV was adding EAC3 support, aka DD Plus. Wowee.
By the way, Atmos on a television that doesn't have three dimensional speakers isn't Atmos, it's a pretty solid gimmick. You'll get better sound from a 5.1 setup or even 7.1 headphones. They're probably getting away with it by putting speakers on the top, sides and bottom of the TV. You can have an Atmos setup with as few as six speakers, by definition. In my opinion you really need 9 to get the 3d sound though. I believe commercial Atmos can have up to 60 speakers, so 9 or 11 really isn't that great.
How are you going to get lossless formats in? No streaming service is going to stream audio at 18 Mbps. Similarly, no streaming service uses DTS. The only practical use for that is playing pirated media rips.
Wrong. By default, Apple pushes everything out as LPCM, including Atmos. This is so they can mix in Siri and navigation sound effects without transcoding.
You may be getting that mixed up with Fire TV which does transcode everything into (E)AC3.
Wrong. The HD Apple TV supports EAC3. In fact, the 3rd gen did. Read the specs.
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I have the Apple TV app on my 2019 82" 4K tv. it is the same as the one on my 13" 2018 Macbook Pro. Worthless for me for anything except Apple TV+ content. It does not support Amazon Prime, Hulu, Netflix, Disney+ and CBS All Access unless you subscribe via their channels. Apple TV Box supports all of those except Netflix. I will stick to my Apple TV HD for now.
I wouldn't consider the built-in apps 'better', but they can be more convenient / quicker to access. They are also more SO-friendly, no hunting remotes, waking up devices and selecting inputs. I do prefer the Fire Stick 4K experience to the Fire TV app on my LG C9, an example would be not being able to expose the full content description in the LG app.
Dolby Atmos support for the newly released Apple TV app and AirPlay 2 on select LG smart TVs is coming in a software update "later this year," an LG spokesperson has confirmed to FlatpanelsHD.com.
Earlier this week, LG announced that the Apple TV app and accompanying ?Apple TV?+ streaming service are now available on select 2019 LG smart TVs in the United States and more than 80 other countries. This follows the CES debut of LG's new 2020 models that come with the ?Apple TV? app preinstalled out of the box.
Dolby Atmos was developed to give sound from movies and TV shows a more three-dimensional effect. Rather than being constrained to channels, sounds can be precisely placed and moved in three-dimensional space.
Dolby Atmos is also supported on the Apple TV 4K running tvOS 12 or later.
Article Link: Apple TV App on Select LG Smart TVs Will Support Dolby Atmos Sound 'Later This Year'
Hold your horses, guys. Reading through this thread I think I detect a certain fuzziness of thinking. Apple puts out two distinctly different products, a.) its own streaming service, which is officially called Apple TV+ but in normal conversation is often reduced to "Apple TV." Then there is the actual Apple TV, that little black box which functions as a kind of Grand Central Station for a wide variety of streaming services (and does some other good stuff too). What I was able to download and try out on my 2019 LG yesterday was strictly the software to handle Apple TV+ streaming, by no means is it a substitute for that little black box. Should it choose to do so, Apple could allow one or more t. v. manufacturers to build the same circuitry found in the black box directly into their sets according some sort of licensing arrangement, but that's not what happened yesterday. Indeed, it would be impossible to retrofit any existing set put out by LG or anybody else with all the tech wizardry of the black box by a software download, in the absence of the the necessary circuitry. But I'm not really accusing any participant in this thread of confused thinking. The fault lies squarely with Apple for putting out two very different products (well, a product and a service) with such similar names. It should have been obvious in Cupertino that doing this would create confusion, frustration and unhappiness in the user base.
Dolby Atmos support for the newly released Apple TV app and AirPlay 2 on select LG smart TVs is coming in a software update "later this year," an LG spokesperson has confirmed to FlatpanelsHD.com.
Earlier this week, LG announced that the Apple TV app and accompanying ?Apple TV?+ streaming service are now available on select 2019 LG smart TVs in the United States and more than 80 other countries. This follows the CES debut of LG's new 2020 models that come with the ?Apple TV? app preinstalled out of the box.
Dolby Atmos was developed to give sound from movies and TV shows a more three-dimensional effect. Rather than being constrained to channels, sounds can be precisely placed and moved in three-dimensional space.
Dolby Atmos is also supported on the Apple TV 4K running tvOS 12 or later.
Article Link: Apple TV App on Select LG Smart TVs Will Support Dolby Atmos Sound 'Later This Year'
I have a LG 55" B9 OLED (2019). I can honestly say the picture from the new built Apple TV app is better than my Apple TV 4K. Actually sold my Apple TV 4K yesterday, because I believe with Apple TV app being on all of these platforms, Apple is bailing on making it's own streaming devices.
I've just thought of another reason why at least one WebOS app is better than the AppleTV version. The BBC use HLG encoding for 4K HDR content (e.g. Planet Earth, some live sports coverage). AppleTV doesn't support HLG whereas the native app on LG WebOS does because the set supports it.
Just saying...!
I see that there are rumours (again) of a new AppleTV in the works. I really hope that they add HLG support. I fear we won't get it, though, because Apple is a US company and doesn't really care about foreign markets quite as much as they make out they do. And yes, I know I'm going to get lots of hate in this thread because I've said that!
Just saying...!
I see that there are rumours (again) of a new AppleTV in the works. I really hope that they add HLG support. I fear we won't get it, though, because Apple is a US company and doesn't really care about foreign markets quite as much as they make out they do. And yes, I know I'm going to get lots of hate in this thread because I've said that!
sorry wrong. Page 12 refers to "alternatives to overhead speakers." That's where you folks without overhead speakers look for the next available solution.
I'm getting frustrated waiting for the Apple TV app on LG and mine is a 2019 model.. On the spec it says coming soon (that was last year). I bought it specifically for that feature so if they don't I shall send the TV back to the shop. Getting really pissed off with LG(UK) !
Wrong. You failed to read the words. Let me do that work for you:
Dolby knows that the majority of users will not install overhead speakers. In fact, the majority of Atmos users will be using sound bars, since today, sound bar sales dominate over AVR sales. If they forced overhead speakers, it would be a commercial failure. That's why HT Atmos is used for background sounds, atmospheric diffuse audio.
They support large number of discrete overhead speakers to make people with deep pockets feel like they can spend big bucks on a new high-tier system, and the AVR makers can sell $3000 units. However, HT Atmos is designed for the mass market, and if you listen to most content, including Dolby's own demo content, that is disconnect the bed channels, you'll find Atmos is used for non-localized background effects.
Simply put, overhead speakers is marketing for rich people.
Have you searched for Apple TV+ app on your TV? Found and installed on my 2019 last week!
Again, it really depends on the title. Overhead speakers really do benefit even for consumers, on some titles. A more diffuse sound is a disadvantage on certain titles.
And quite frankly, if it was only for background sounds and atmospheric diffuse audio, that would be a major disappointment.
Save yourself the trouble and just buy an Apple TV 4K. After selling mine thinking I could just stick to my TVs smart features, I ended up buying an Apple TV again because it’s just too damn good
I see no picture quality difference on my C9 between the Apple TV 4k aNd the LG TV app, once the picture is properly calibrated. (one has to turn off motion smoothing, etc. for each source)
Apple is coming out with a new Apple TV in the next couple months. They aren’t bailing.
Again from the chapter "alternatives to overhead speakers". The chapter on overhead speaker placement is the primary chapter listed.
Simply put, upward firing speakers is marketing for people who can't afford the gold standard and the "sound bar" crowd. Good enough for most people yes, and a good "alternative." Read the manual from the beginning not just the part you want to believe.
AppleTV doesn't support HLG HDR format. Really hoping the updated version that's rumoured for this year will fix that!