I'm not very surprised either but then again I didn't even see anything special about the
tv ... it's not worth the $299edit: i bet i'm gonna get a lotta crap for this...
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I'm not very surprised either but then again I didn't even see anything special about the
tv ... it's not worth the $299edit: i bet i'm gonna get a lotta crap for this...
Yeah, me too.
If they're still shipping online orders this week and expecting stores to have them by the 5th (as previously stated), where's the mid-march delay?
Looking like Microsoft
See, this exactly why Steve J doesn't announce products in advance.
I was LMAO at MS when they kept postponing the Longhorn release, and still am since Vista looks so buggy and confusing, but no Apple runs the risk of looking like they can't finish on time. And a 6 month wait for the phone. Come on? This makes you wonder if that will be on time too.
Oh, and while I'm at it, how long did we have to wait after Steve promised a 3GB desktop? It was like 3 years, but he promised a 1 year wait. Hell, he had to change to Intel for that.
Not preannouncing solves the problem. The things get done when they are done.
See, this exactly why Steve J doesn't announce products in advance.
I was LMAO at MS when they kept postponing the Longhorn release, and still am since Vista looks so buggy and confusing, but no Apple runs the risk of looking like they can't finish on time. And a 6 month wait for the phone. Come on? This makes you wonder if that will be on time too.
Oh, and while I'm at it, how long did we have to wait after Steve promised a 3GB desktop? It was like 3 years, but he promised a 1 year wait. Hell, he had to change to Intel for that.
Not preannouncing solves the problem. The things get done when they are done.
FYI... the article states that the quote concerning mid-March shipments came from Lynn Fox. Fox is Apple's Mac PR Director.
Since Apple Store Online's shipments to customers are synchronized to arrive no earlier than the street date for shipments to Apple Store retail centers, I suspect she means all shipments.
Either way, if the notice did come from Fox, it's the official word.
Since Apple Store Online's shipments to customers are synchronized to arrive no earlier than the street date for shipments to Apple Store retail centers, I suspect she means all shipments.
Either way, if the notice did come from Fox, it's the official word.
Just don't get it!
As I have said in the past, their is no reason why Apple cannot provide 1080P content (besides the fact there isn't much 1080P content available) from the iTunes store.
Yeah, I hear the rumbling now about the long download times, but seriously couldn't Apple just break the Chapters into individual downloads (like an album or like the VIDEO_TS folder on a DVD) and then write some simple code to always play the files in order.
Also remember that Apple claims that movies from iTunes will be 720P (which is better than 1080i).
Sounds like a no brainer to me!
Why are people so stuck in the hard media paradigm? Instead of asking Apple to decide between Blu-Ray and HD-DVD I would rather see people asking them to make HD content available from iTunes. Making TV completely media dependent. In five years when the next leap is made in HD technology, the enduser will not have to add yet another player to their system, but instead just upload (if necessary) the proper patch to TV and then purchase the content from iTunes.
As I have said in the past, their is no reason why Apple cannot provide 1080P content (besides the fact there isn't much 1080P content available) from the iTunes store.
Yeah, I hear the rumbling now about the long download times, but seriously couldn't Apple just break the Chapters into individual downloads (like an album or like the VIDEO_TS folder on a DVD) and then write some simple code to always play the files in order.
Also remember that Apple claims that movies from iTunes will be 720P (which is better than 1080i).
Sounds like a no brainer to me!
I'm sure they had their reasons for prerelease announcement, but I agree it's great to hear Steve say " and it will start shipping.......today!"
I doubt the delay is due to some hardware related issue or even with Leopard/Vista tie-ups software wise. The delay is probably due to some unfinished content distribution contracts with the various entertainment companies.
Apple is probably trying to hammer out a better pricing system for movie/tv rentals.
Still, I think a 20GB PS3 at $499 is a better deal than this since the AppleTV foolishly does not work as a DVR. At the very least, the PS3 is a Blu-Ray player (and the best one on the market too, not counting Sony's stand-alone unit), and you can rent movies in 1080p goodness in Blu-Ray straight from NetFlix without any price increase over regular DVDs. And 1080p is better than the basement- level HD that is 720p. Save the inferior 720p HD for Microsoft's Xbox360 and let the big-boys pursue 1080p. Unfortunately, Apple doesn't seem to want to be better than Sony in this regard, or TiVo in the other. Shame.
ps. HD DVD is dead. Thanks for playing, Toshiba and Microsoft. Now please join JVC backstage in sulking over the failure of the SuperVHS and D-VHS formats...
Apple is probably trying to hammer out a better pricing system for movie/tv rentals.
Still, I think a 20GB PS3 at $499 is a better deal than this since the AppleTV foolishly does not work as a DVR. At the very least, the PS3 is a Blu-Ray player (and the best one on the market too, not counting Sony's stand-alone unit), and you can rent movies in 1080p goodness in Blu-Ray straight from NetFlix without any price increase over regular DVDs. And 1080p is better than the basement- level HD that is 720p. Save the inferior 720p HD for Microsoft's Xbox360 and let the big-boys pursue 1080p. Unfortunately, Apple doesn't seem to want to be better than Sony in this regard, or TiVo in the other. Shame.
ps. HD DVD is dead. Thanks for playing, Toshiba and Microsoft. Now please join JVC backstage in sulking over the failure of the SuperVHS and D-VHS formats...
should apple make up for the delay?
oh man! i was looking forward to hooking it up this weekend !!
as someone who preordered this back in september, i am disappointed. didn't they originally say it would ship in january, then february, and now another delay? what would make me feel better is if they just offered an extra goodie to make up for the delay, like a free TV show download (a movie download would be even better though).
oh man! i was looking forward to hooking it up this weekend !!
as someone who preordered this back in september, i am disappointed. didn't they originally say it would ship in january, then february, and now another delay? what would make me feel better is if they just offered an extra goodie to make up for the delay, like a free TV show download (a movie download would be even better though).
Pre-Announcing
Pre-announcing a product is risky business indeed. However, product
awareness does justify cause for consumers to hold out for the
next bit thing on the horizon, which Apple has attempted to do
with the iPhone.
I don't think this bodes well for other products (Leopard, updates to the mac line, etc). It's taking resources away from other stuff that they should focus on. I could not care less about
Pre-announcing a product is risky business indeed. However, product
awareness does justify cause for consumers to hold out for the
next bit thing on the horizon, which Apple has attempted to do
with the iPhone.
I totally agree. I got the 20GB PS3 and love it. One thing Apple has is software integration. PS3 lacks the network sharing that AppleTV promises. iPhoto, iTunes integration. I wish PS3 would support that.
I'm kinda surprised. I was hoping to get it soon, guess I'm gonna either cancel my order or wait like everyone else.
Come on peoples!!!
A two week delay is NOTHING. Im sure it just a logistical mishap somewhere in the supply chain. Happens all the time. These things are already on a palet on a loading dock somewhere waiting for distribution, or more like the Freighter from Taiwan got stuck in some bad weather. And I seriously doubt that they are waiting for an iTunes agreement to ship iTV. iTV has already been announced, so what would be the point of stalling for an iTunes agreement or a software announcement. "Finally, Leopard is here, and by the way, our new iTV is shipping today as well!!" ? Nope, cant say I see a correlation.
A two week delay is NOTHING. Im sure it just a logistical mishap somewhere in the supply chain. Happens all the time. These things are already on a palet on a loading dock somewhere waiting for distribution, or more like the Freighter from Taiwan got stuck in some bad weather. And I seriously doubt that they are waiting for an iTunes agreement to ship iTV. iTV has already been announced, so what would be the point of stalling for an iTunes agreement or a software announcement. "Finally, Leopard is here, and by the way, our new iTV is shipping today as well!!" ? Nope, cant say I see a correlation.
ARG ZAP SMASH!!
O well....I'll still be here
Ya because I can stream all my iTunes bought stuff w/ the PS3
O well....I'll still be here
Ya because I can stream all my iTunes bought stuff w/ the PS3
The Apple online store changed the date to Mid-March so it's really official now.
Cancelled!!
-Peace
Why cancel? I don't understand.
Dammit! Well I guess that gives me time to start ripping my DVD collection.
The Apple online store changed the date to Mid-March so it's really official now.
Cancelled!!
How did you manage to order it in September?
The full details (and final name) were only announced at MWSF in January with a shipping date of the end of February. They only started taking pre-orders after the Keynote had finished and todays announcement is the first and only delay so far.
Because I'm ticked off at Apple and it's my way of showing my dissatisfaction.
I'll order it again when they have it in stock.
Maybe one little voice but 5,000 little voices make one loud voice.
Apple should have never promised to ship this unless they were sure it would ship on time.
If you pre-ordered back in September then you're really getting ripped off, since you couldn't order it until after the Keynote in January!