Apple TV Delayed Until March

[ortuno2k]

All this TV & iPhone rant...again.
I could really care less for it; I won't be buying one. Never cared. Same thing for the stupid iPhone. Am I the only person who's dropped the ball on these two products and doesn't see the hype behind them?
Flame awayyy...

 

[ortuno2k]

Quoted for truth.

DVDs/CDs/physical media is dying, long live on demand downloads.

I don't know about you, but I still prefer to buy my media and have a hard copy of the original. I do purchase random songs and singles from the iTunes Store, but nothing else. I still purchase CDs and DVDs.
"Yes, but you can burn it on CD and back-it-up..."
I know, but it's not the same.

 

[Lucy Brown]

Not sold yet

All this TV & iPhone rant...again.
I could really care less for it; I won't be buying one. Never cared. Same thing for the stupid iPhone. Am I the only person who's dropped the ball on these two products and doesn't see the hype behind them?
Flame awayyy...

I'm not sold on the tv but I would have interest in the iphone if didnt cost so damn much. 500 beans is a joke for an ipod that has a phone.

 

[pdpfilms]

The status of my ordered changed from Feb 28 to Mar 20. totally weak. I ordered the same day, more like hour, it was available on the apple store after the keynote. oh well.

Ditto. Super weak sauce, apple. Boo.
I fully understand the importance of ironing out all the bugs, but nonetheless, they missed their promised delivery date by over two weeks.

 

[NightStorm]

Am I the only one who wonders why people who have absolutely zero interest in a product feel obligated to enter every single thread about said product and complain that it doesn't meet their needs and must then obviously suck? I for one do not want a Xbox 360 (already have a Wii and a PS3), do not want PVR capabilities (I have a S3 Tivo), and do not want a bigger hard drive or some additional features. I just want the ability to stream my iTunes content to my television/entertainment center; something that you cannot do with any other solution people always seem to offer here (and yes, I'm talking about the protected content).

EDIT: Oh, and before anyone else suggests it, no I do not want the hassle of always hooking/unhooking my laptop to my computer when I want to play something.

 

[Lucy Brown]

I don't know about you, but I still prefer to buy my media and have a hard copy of the original. I do purchase random songs and singles from the iTunes Store, but nothing else. I still purchase CDs and DVDs.
"Yes, but you can burn it on CD and back-it-up..."
I know, but it's not the same.

Well the itunes sound quality is not the same as cd thats for sure. I dont play my music thru super hi fi equipment anymore so the difference in negligible to me. Video content is another story.

 

[DMann]

Two weeks

Ditto. Super weak sauce, apple. Boo.
I fully understand the importance of ironing out all the bugs, but nonetheless, they missed their promised delivery date by over two weeks.

Two weeks is nuttin' to cry about.......

 

[danielwsmithee]

Sorry but the reality is that iTV sucks. Lame remote, can't view anything unless its in your itunes library. Must sync it like an ipod, only 40gb hd. Stupid front row interface.

How am i going to watch my eyeTV recorded tv shows? Why can't I stream the massive amounts of video I have on my hard drive? Why can't I have a remote that I won't lose and with more functionality. Why is it freakin $300?

I must say this is the first apple product I will not buy. Its too lame. I can just plug my ipod into my tv if I want these features.

Sticking with my xbox 360 and media center. This setup way rocks.

I don't really understand your sentiment.
1) One of the best things about the Apple TV is the remote. I love how simple and intuitive it is, and from the looks of the interface it will give you all the functionality you need. The nice thing about it being the identical remote to the computers is it cheap and easy to replace it. Loosing it is going to be your own problem though. Personally I think I might glue a magnet on my coffee table to mount it to when not in use. I like the frontrow interface.

2) You can sync your eyeTV recorded data to it just like you can now to the iPod. There is a little checkbox in eyeTV to automaticly export to iTunes. If you check that everything you record will show up imediatly for streaming on your Apple TV.

3) You can stream the massive amounts of videos you have they just must be inside iTunes. It might be nice to just get anything on a network share, but I can live with putting my content in iTunes.

I would like to see a larger HD so it doesn't have to stream as much of my library, but ultimatly that will come with future revisions.

As far as price is concerned how much are you willing to pay? Because $299 seams like a fair price when compared to an iPod. It also is much better then paying for a mini, and it has component out which is important for me since I don't have HDMI on my TV.

Obviously if you already have an XBMC why would you want something else that does the same thing.

Do any of you remember when the MacBook Pro first came out and was delayed by about a month, then Apple upgraded the processor for everyone. Could they do the same here to appease the masses 80 GB?

 

[DMann]

Thanks for the Clarification

I don't really understand your sentiment.
1) One of the best things about the Apple TV is the remote. I love how simple and intuitive it is, and from the looks of the interface it will give you all the functionality you need. The nice thing about it being the identical remote to the computers is it cheap and easy to replace it. Loosing it is going to be your own problem though. Personally I think I might glue a magnet on my coffee table to mount it to when not in use. I like the frontrow interface.

2) You can sync your eyeTV recorded data to it just like you can now to the iPod. There is a little checkbox in eyeTV to automaticly export to iTunes. If you check that everything you record will show up imediatly for streaming on your Apple TV.

3) You can stream the massive amounts of videos you have they just must be inside iTunes. It might be nice to just get anything on a network share, but I can live with putting my content in iTunes.

I would like to see a larger HD so it doesn't have to stream as much of my library, but ultimatly that will come with future revisions.

As far as price is concerned how much are you willing to pay? Because $299 seams like a fair price when compared to an iPod. It also is much better then paying for a mini, and it has component out which is important for me since I don't have HDMI on my TV.

Obviously if you already have an XBMC why would you want something else that does the same thing.

Do any of you remember when the MacBook Pro first came out and was delayed by about a month, then Apple upgraded the processor for everyone. Could they do the same here to appease the masses 80 GB?

Thanks for clarifying the procedure for connecting EyeTV with
iTunes..... I didn't think of that - great solution

 

[iMikeT]

Could we be seeing a Leopard and iWork '07 and iLife '06 release along with the tv?

 

[lazyrighteye]

50" Rear Projection TV

I've read the specs and I'm in denial.
Any way my TV and an TV will play nice (read: at all)?

If not, any ideas how they might?

Thanks.

 

[Lynxpro]

Ya because I can stream all my iTunes bought stuff w/ the PS3

Rolls eyes at that suggestion because none of the video you've so far purchased from the iTunes Store is in HD, let alone basement-level HD.

 

[NightStorm]

Thanks for clarifying the procedure for connecting EyeTV with
iTunes..... I didn't think of that - great solution

Elgato even mentions how the EyeTV and AppleTV would be a great pair on their website and that they will be updating their software as quickly as they can to extend their support for the specifications of the AppleTV.

 

[nateDEEZY]

Could we be seeing a Leopard and iWork '07 and iLife '06 release along with the tv?

Thats a little wishful thinking ;]

But we can hope.

 

[EricNau]

Does the tv up-convert content (similar to many DVD players)?

 

[slffl]

Hear that? that's the sound of another Rev A disaster unfolding.

What were some other Rev A disasters?

 

[Lucy Brown]

Hmm, ok so the eyetv and tv will act like a tivo. So why didnt apple just put out the tv with a tuner and be done with it.

 

[patrick0brien]

I've read the specs and I'm in denial.
Any way my TV and an TV will play nice (read: at all)?

If not, any ideas how they might?

Thanks.

-lazyrighteye

What do ya got?

Anything certified Hi-Def should work.

 

[slffl]

I for one can't wait for this. And for all the people who want the iTV to be like Media Center, I personally don't like the interface for Vistas Media Center. It's way too small for a TV.

BTW, If you don't like it, move on. Apple's not going to change product features based on forum suggestions.

 

[NightStorm]

Hmm, ok so the eyetv and tv will act like a tivo. So why didnt apple just put out the tv with a tuner and be done with it.

Because then the people who didn't need this functionality (ie. just wanted a system to get iTunes content to their TV) would complain about having to pay more money for something they didn't need. Also, it would make the overall device more complex, and eat into the iTunes sales which I'm sure Steve and company are expecting from this device.

 

[Lynxpro]

Am I the only one who wonders why people who have absolutely zero interest in a product feel obligated to enter every single thread about said product and complain that it doesn't meet their needs and must then obviously suck?

Because maybe if more people complain about WHY they won't be buying the product [AppleTV], perhaps Apple will take notice and then implement solutions for their 2.0 model.

Look how much online complaining it took before Apple implemented gapless playback on the iPods. Had they done that from the start, Apple would have reduced the 3 Creative MP3 players sold by 3. (sarcasm). Perhaps Apple will give OGG/FLAC playback on iPods by the 7G release in order to further cut out their me-too competitors.

I for one do not want a Xbox 360 (already have a Wii and a PS3), do not want PVR capabilities (I have a S3 Tivo), and do not want a bigger hard drive or some additional features. I just want the ability to stream my iTunes content to my television/entertainment center; something that you cannot do with any other solution people always seem to offer here (and yes, I'm talking about the protected content).

Then complain about Apple not buying TiVo. Had they done so, chances are you could stream your audio iTunes purchases to your S3. Unfortunately, Apple is too cheap to part with $400 million (from their $12 billion war chest) that it would take to buy Tivo outright and start integrating the compatible user base(s). You'd think Apple would do something smart like that, since it would only cost 4 times what their settlement with Creative amounted to.

EDIT: Oh, and before anyone else suggests it, no I do not want the hassle of always hooking/unhooking my laptop to my computer when I want to play something.

Uhm, there's a company called Sling that's working on stuff in the field. Perhaps Apple should buy them up with some of their spare chump-change and pre-emptively c-block Motorola and Cisco and their eventual patent-trolling lawsuits against Apple when such features make it to the Mac platform.

 

[patrick0brien]

Hmm, ok so the eyetv and tv will act like a tivo. So why didnt apple just put out the tv with a tuner and be done with it.

-Lucy Brown

I, for one, already have a Tivo and actually appreciate that being a totally separate device as it handles what I consider to be different content than what the TV is for, just as different as a DVD player.

But that's just me.

 

[EricNau]

Hmm, ok so the eyetv and tv will act like a tivo. So why didnt apple just put out the tv with a tuner and be done with it.

Personally, I think it's more intuitive to have the computer record and store the media, and just stream it to the TV when ready. After all, it's much easier to set up recording times on a computer screen with a mouse than a TV screen with a remote.

Now all we need is Apple to do it.

 

[Lynxpro]

Because then the people who didn't need this functionality (ie. just wanted a system to get iTunes content to their TV) would complain about having to pay more money for something they didn't need. Also, it would make the overall device more complex, and eat into the iTunes sales which I'm sure Steve and company are expecting from this device.

That is a lamest excuse repeated verbatim on the net...eating into iTunes Store sales. If that's the case, then Apple better cut MP3 playback from the iPod line because it is theoretically hurting their iTunes Music Sales.

Adding DVR functionality is a selling point. Content sales are supposed to drive hardware sales, because if Apple was truly interested in increasing content sales, then they would license the FairPlay DRM to their competitors and gain a de facto online media store monopoly fair-and-square.

 

[Lynxpro]

I, for one, already have a Tivo and actually appreciate that being a totally separate device as it handles what I consider to be different content than what the TV is for, just as different as a DVD player. But that's just me.

How exactly do you figure? TiVo is going into online sales/rentals with their Amazon Unbox partnership. Its the same market. Problem is, TiVo seems to be smarter than Apple in this regard, but they don't have Apple's $12 billion in reserves that could be used to bury the AppleTV with.