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It doesn't make any sense , if there is a good show or movie on a streaming service then 5$ to watch it seems VERY competitive just for the one show or movie , I think ppl got so jaded about streaming overflow that they don't look at the value proposition anymore , 5$ for one good series ? amazing deal !!! 5$ for 100 **** series ? very bad deal.

I pay for my books , Brandon Sanderson gets my 15$ for most of his books , I read it in a couple of days and I feel that I got my money worth.

TLDR - 5$ is a very cheap price for a good TV show (if it ends up being one of course).
Absolutely. I struggle to find anything to justify paying $5 to Netflix or Amazon other than once every 6 months. $5 to Apple for this and a few others is well worth it. Is it worth a continuous subscription ? We'll see.

I've been waiting to see this on TV or in the Cinema for more than 50 years.
 
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Remember I, robot? , wasn’t how I expected it from reading the book.
The problem with the movie version of I, Robot is that it was not originally intended to be that - it started life as a screenplay called Hardwired, entirely unrelated to Asimov’s brilliant short story collection, and then somewhere along the way, some movie executive got the bright idea of licensing the IP and renaming some of the characters to match the short stories, more or less. Wikipedia has (a summary of) the details.

The result is interesting if taken as a random SciFi movie, but it’s awful if taken as an adaptation of Asimov’s stories, and, maddeningly, it has now ”used up” the name, in the public’s mind, so it would be extra difficult to make a movie actually based on the Asimov stories (which would make a lovely series of vignettes, or could be done episodically in the Twilight Zone / Amazing Stories format - not theme, just the “weekly showcase of unrelated stories” format - heck, I’d love to see Apple do this as a series, with a completely retro-future look, don’t try to update it to modern times).

A similar thing happened to the Starship Troopers movie, by the way - the director did not read the book, did not like the book, said, “oh, this is about Nazis, I know about Nazis”, and made a movie that uses the names of the characters and some of the trappings of the book, but goes out of its way to not do the story justice, because he wants to show that Nazis are bad by going completely over the top (yes, I wholeheartedly agree that Nazis are bad, but that isn’t what the story was about). Maybe if you don’t like the book and haven’t read the book… maybe you shouldn’t be doing the movie? Let someone who cares do it.

It’s another case of a moderately entertaining SciFi movie that has very little to do with the book whose name it essentially steals (all legal-like), and creates a large roadblock for any attempt to make an actual movie out of the original book.

Both of these movies bug the heck out of me, for damaging the chances of getting proper movies for two well-regarded works of science fiction. Thankfully, I get the strong impression Apple is not taking this tact with Foundation (crosses fingers).

Lord of the Rings was fabulous because it was both well-executed, and stayed close to the source material. David Lynch’s Dune looked and sounded very good, except for precisely the parts where he decided he knew better than Frank Herbert and “improved” things (weirding modules, heart plugs, etc.) - those bits were all awful. It’s really annoying when directors take books that are beloved precisely because of the way the characters are depicted, and story plays out, and then start changing those things for a film - not because they can’t fit it all in, but because “they have a better idea” - especially when you sell it as, say, “I, Robot”, and not, “Hardwired, inspired by I, Robot”.
 
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The TV series will be massively different from the books with at least 3 characters gender swapped (Gaal Dornik, Salvor Hardin and Eto Demezrel). It could be good or it could be bad, it depends on the quality of the writing.... Adapting it as it is would result in just a sequence of dialogues and very little action...

Moreover the series is incomplete so we'll see if they decide to move forward or to stick to the "end" as it is in "Foundation and Earth"

The series is not starting with the first book, because the first book is set after the fall of the empire and the death of Seldon.

No, the first book "Foundation" (1951) is a collection of 4 short stories/novellas published previously in Sci-Fi magazines and it starts with the arrival of Gaal Dorrnick on Trantor, his encouter with an old Hari Seldon and the trial and exile of the enciclopedists on Terminus....
 
They are worth rereading but have limitations. As a teenager I really liked the books. I recently re-read them a few years ago but was not impressed the second time through. This is because almost nothing happens other than a lot of talk. This trailer has more action than all the books combined. I like philosophy. I like psychology. I appreciate the books but Asimov did not know how to move a story along. Even if these are only loosely inspired by the books, they might be a significant improvement.

Again, I have huge respect for Asimov and have read many of his books but this series has to have many "liberal creative differences [from] the book content" otherwise it will be a terrible show.
Yep, Asimov was big on ideas and small on action.
 
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The TV series will be massively different from the books with at least 3 characters gender swapped (Gaal Dornik, Salvor Hardin and Eto Demezrel). It could be good or it could be bad, it depends on the quality of the writing.... Adapting it as it is would result in just a sequence of dialogues and very little action...
My first reaction to seeing Foundation being picked up by Apple was "Cool!", followed by my second reaction of "Hey! there are women characters in this..." (Yes, I know about Bayta Darell. Now name a second.)
 
Can anyone comment on the appropriateness of the books and potentially this series for 11-12 year old? I haven't read them myself and I struggled a little bit trying to find info. My son has heard of this and wants to read the books before the series comes out.
I read the first 3 books of the Foundation series ("Foundation"; "Foundation and Empire"; and "Second Foundation") when I was about 13 years old. I read the books again a few years ago. I believe there is no content at all that would be offensive in regard to violence, coarse language, etc. These books were written in the 1950's, so the general style of writing is somewhat different than it is these days. Also, as others have mentioned, there is not much "action" in these books so it's possible they may not appeal as much to kids these days as they did to me. (I absolutely loved the Foundation series, as well as almost everything else that Asimov wrote). The first of the three original books, "Foundation", definitely has the slowest pacing. "Foundation and Empire" and "Second Foundation" are much more engaging. If I recall correctly, when I was a kid, I first read "Foundation and Empire", followed by "Second Foundation". I wasn't confused, even though I read "Foundation" (book 1) last. (Note: Years after these original three Foundation books were written, Asimov added several other prequel and sequel books to this series. However, it is not at all necessary to read any of the prequels prior to reading the original three Foundation books.)
 
My first reaction to seeing Foundation being picked up by Apple was "Cool!", followed by my second reaction of "Hey! there are women characters in this..." (Yes, I know about Bayta Darell. Now name a second.)
Bayta Darrell was the main viewpoint character of Foundation and Empire and Arcadia Darell was the main viewpoint character of Second Foundation.
 
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As to the series - the gender swapping happens. Whether or not it works depends on how it is executed - for example the swap of Starbuck on BSG turned out well. A larger issue is they seem to be playing games with the characters and stories too - Seldon comes off all wrong as does Salvor Hardin and indeed the Empire itself.
 
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I will try to not spoil anything.

When i read the three books for the time (when Star Trek TNG was the main scify show), i thought Foundation may be an interesting TV show, thanks to their continuity and 'long term proposal'. It's like a space opera, a very good one. Good following of events, a background, good start, good finish and a pretty good in-between. In adition, it conects pretty well with previous Asimov books.

At first, i thought a TV show must be maybe not 100%, but almost 90%. Currently, many years latter (or decades lol), i guess i'm more open to changes on any TV adaptation. Sincerely, the books are pretty interesting, but may be more engaging (the fist one for example, which seems to be more like a short stories collection).

Also i'm pretty open to gender swapping in that case. The books were written in a time when main characters can't be women, specially in scify; despite Asimov's seemed to be pretty open to that idea. Surelly long time in the future (or pretty near in time), womens will have more protagonism. Another case may be gender swapping Gengis Khan or Julius Caesar; i'm pretty sorry, but firs, they were men; changing it isn't right. But not in the future.

Said that, i really don't like the gender swap of Demerzel. It's hard to explain without spoil... it just doesn't feel right that gender swap. I will rather prefer the gender swap of Hari Seldon instead of Demerzel. Despite my opinion, the selected actress seems to make her role pretty well, it really seems Demerzel... just as 'a woman' instead of 'a man'. Damn, it's pretty hard to not spoil anything.

About the trailer. It seems to contain the prequel and part of the book one (as there's only Salvor Hardin). IMHO it's a good idea. The second season may be the 2nd and 3rd books; there's a spanish actor right for one of the main characters lol. And maybe the 3d and 4th seasons the last two books.
 
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So the price of fandom isn’t worth $5.
It *might* be worth waiting until the series was completed, and then one month to binge-watch it, but a continuing subscription? No, it's not.

I thought For All Mankind might be worth it, but fortunately I watched a couple episodes first.
 
Luckily that's not the only show on offer and there's more original content to see and enjoy.
There may be more original content, but there isn't much of anything there I'd bother with. Your mileage may vary, of course.
 
This would be THE chance for Apple TV+ to truly earn a fame, for people to be interested in subscribing. If Apple misses this chance, this service will basically be a flop, at least for a long long long time.
 
I read the first 3 books of the Foundation series ("Foundation"; "Foundation and Empire"; and "Second Foundation") when I was about 13 years old. I read the books again a few years ago. I believe there is no content at all that would be offensive in regard to violence, coarse language, etc. These books were written in the 1950's, so the general style of writing is somewhat different than it is these days. Also, as others have mentioned, there is not much "action" in these books so it's possible they may not appeal as much to kids these days as they did to me. (I absolutely loved the Foundation series, as well as almost everything else that Asimov wrote). The first of the three original books, "Foundation", definitely has the slowest pacing. "Foundation and Empire" and "Second Foundation" are much more engaging. If I recall correctly, when I was a kid, I first read "Foundation and Empire", followed by "Second Foundation". I wasn't confused, even though I read "Foundation" (book 1) last. (Note: Years after these original three Foundation books were written, Asimov added several other prequel and sequel books to this series. However, it is not at all necessary to read any of the prequels prior to reading the original three Foundation books.)
Ah, memories. I read them at about the same age! It's been a long time, and the books are vague memories (time for a re-read!), but I agree I don't recall there being anything "adult" about the stories (otherwise surely it would have been burned into my 13-year old mind). I do remember the earlier books (Foundation, Foundation and Empire, Second Foundation, which he wrote in the 50s), are not as easy to read as the books Asimov wrote later in his life (1980s and later). Other people can weigh in, but I almost think it's better for a new, young reader to start with Foundation's Edge and maybe Foundation and Earth, as they're much easier to get into.

I found the early books a little too dense in history/politics/etc which weren't that exciting to my middle/high school brain.
 
The big difference is that with I, Robot, they didn't start out to make a movie adaptation of the book. They wrote a movie, then someone remembered they had the rights to the I, Robot name, and just stuck it on there because it was good marketing.
Actually, they could not make a movie from it. The book was made of short stories. What they did do was incorporate elements and themes from many of those short stories into the movie. They did a fantastic job of following the book. In terms of texture and basic ideas, it was one of the closest adaptations I have watched.
 
Actually, they could not make a movie from it. The book was made of short stories. What they did do was incorporate elements and themes from many of those short stories into the movie. They did a fantastic job of following the book. In terms of texture and basic ideas, it was one of the closest adaptations I have watched.
Just entirely no. From the movie's Wikipedia article:

The film I, Robot originally had no connection with Isaac Asimov's Robot series. It started with an original screenplay written in 1995 by Jeff Vintar, entitled Hardwired. The script was an Agatha Christie-inspired murder mystery that took place entirely at the scene of a crime, with one lone human character, FBI agent Del Spooner, investigating the killing of a reclusive scientist named Dr. Alfred Lanning, and interrogating a cast of machine suspects that included Sonny the robot, VIKI the supercomputer with a perpetual smiley face, the dead Dr. Lanning's hologram, plus several other examples of artificial intelligence.​
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Jeff Vintar was brought back on the project and spent several years opening up his stage play-like cerebral mystery to meet the needs of a big budget studio film. When the studio decided to use the name "I, Robot", he incorporated the Three Laws of Robotics and replaced his female lead character Flynn with Susan Calvin. Akiva Goldsman was hired late in the process to write for Smith.​

You can like the movie if you want to, but it has precious little to do with the book. And other movies have done quite well with a format stitching together multiple smaller stories - it's not impossible to do. It's not a case where the producers started with a plan to film I, Robot, and decided after deliberation to not use, say, a multiple vignette form - they didn't start with I, Robot at all - they had another movie in production and decided to slap the I, Robot name on it. Which is maddening.
 
Time to re read the books or should I go with low expectations knowing that book adaptations don’t always translate well to big screen. Would be disappointing if they took liberal creative differences on the book content.

Remember I, robot? , wasn’t how I expected it from reading the book.
I wouldn’t get too hung up on the books. They were good when I was younger and might be worth you reading but they were a massive story written 70 years ago. They will need to be reinterpreted for a new medium and a new century. Embrace the evolution.
 
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