Apple TV+ Film 'CODA' Wins Best Picture at 2022 Oscars

[FeelingGood]

Apple got lucky this time, it was a very unique film to have on their subscription service.

It wasn’t “luck” at all. It’s great, intelligent taste, the same great taste and intelligence Apple continuously demonstrate in the design of all their hardware and software… 95% of the time. ?

 

[MacBH928]

No.

I don't know if there are others, but one I know off the top of my head is The Departed. It's a remake of Infernal Affairs.

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The more you know... I hate copy cat movies, when you are so creatively poor that you take someone's else work and claim to be your own. Licensed or not all same to me.

The only way I accept this is when the original work was amateurly or under-funded made and can be redone in a significantly better fashion or the work is too old it can be benefit from advancement in technology (King Kong, original batman tv show, green hulk)

"Best" can be more on the subjective side or more on the objective side, and can be gauged a number of different ways e.g., best selling, best ratings, best warranty, best value, etc. To refer to anything as the "best" needs more context and rarely (if ever) is anything the best across the board or meant to be taken that way.

well I am just replying to him saying that Apple aims to be the best

 

[MacBH928]

When in doubt, some folk like to go full on hyperbole. Hence the use of the ”plagiarised” which is this case is 100% wrong.

@InTeCredo to plagiarize something is to take something and pass it off as your own. The Producer of La Famille Bélier ALSO produced CODA - and he wanted to do it with Real Deaf Actors and not well known hearing actors (as was the case for the ‘original’).

Please explain how that fits in with your highly hyperbolic use of the word “plagiarize”? I assume you didn‘t know about the producer and his feelings, and therefore just created some random nonsense in an attempt to make a point (and fail),

its on the producer (imo) to remake the movie within 7 years time, he had all the tools in 2014 to make the movie in his vision but he did not.

I do not find it acceptable for some one to redo his work several times with a decade timeframe.

 

[TiggrToo]

The only way I accept this is when the original work was amateurly or under-funded made and can be redone in a significantly better fashion or the work is too old it can be benefit from advancement in technology (King Kong, original batman tv show, green hulk)

There are aot of people (including myself) who still rank the original King Kong as the absolute best of all the versions.

As a result your basis for allowing remakes would seem to be little more than personal preference - which means it can safely be ignored.

 

[TiggrToo]

I do not find it acceptable for some one to redo his work several times with a decade timeframe.

Why? Again, because YOU decided?

Who up and voted for you to be the final arbiter of all this?

 

[EugW]

The Departed is a great movie.

Infernal Affairs is a great movie too.

 

[return2sendai]

Said who? You?

You’re categorically wrong. “Movies are not supposed to be entertainment”. Many are there to educate, some to remind (e.g. Schindler‘s List) and others are there to make you think and question.

Stop assuming the whole world wants only the films you want.

Stop assuming the “whole world” cares about the Oscars.

 

[TiggrToo]

Stop assuming the “whole world” cares about the Oscars.

Where did I say that? Where did I even say the word "Oscar"?

I'll wait...

 

[macos9rules]

Is Coda the first remake to win best picture?

I think the very first was Cleopatra, a 1963 remake of the silent film Cleopatra from 1917. Another one was 2006's The Departed a remake of Infernal Affairs.

 

[macos9rules]

Look at the list of movies. So depressing. Movies are supposed to be entertainment. Yes, entertainment - all the time. Please no virtue signaling. Apple TV+ is as horrible as it can get.

I disagree. Movies are made for many purposes, not just entertainment... art, documentation, to make us think, etc. You may think that Apple TV+ is horrible, but that's just your opinion. Personally, I love it... and that's just my opinion!

 

[TiggrToo]

its on the producer (imo) to remake the movie within 7 years time

Where on earth did this 7 years come from? 7 years how, what, when?

 

[MacBH928]

There are aot of people (including myself) who still rank the original King Kong as the absolute best of all the versions.

As a result your basis for allowing remakes would seem to be little more than personal preference - which means it can safely be ignored.

Why? Again, because YOU decided?

Who up and voted for you to be the final arbiter of all this?

You can watch or do whatever movie you want, including 2 hours of static noise and no audio if you like.

Where on earth did this 7 years come from? 7 years how, what, when?

7 years years between the original La Famille Bélier in 2014 and CODA in 2021. I guess people are going to be excited to see the remake in 2023 and then another remake in 2025 and then a Japanese iteration in 2026 by the same producer.

 

[TiggrToo]

You can watch or do whatever movie you want, including 2 hours of static noise and no audio if you like.



7 years years between the original La Famille Bélier in 2014 and CODA in 2021. I guess people are going to be excited to see the remake in 2023 and then another remake in 2025 and then a Japanese iteration in 2026 by the same producer.

You sound extraordinarily bitter about all this, and come across as to have taken all this very personally.

Why? Can't you just be happy that a movie featuring deaf actors (including some previously unknown ones) has done very well?

 

[MacBH928]

You sound extraordinarily bitter about all this, and come across as to have taken all this very personally.

Why? Can't you just be happy that a movie featuring deaf actors (including some previously unknown ones) has done very well?

I am not bitter, I originally stated my opinion tat I am not a fan of copy-cat movies or remakes even if it is by the same producer you object to say that this is actually a good thing and I stated my reasons why I am not a fan of remakes. I won't keep watching continuous reiteration of the same story there is more to explore out there and to grab my attention than to see the same movie twice.

Others can do whatever they want with their lifetime on earth. I haven't watched either, but if it is really only a remake then La Famille Bélier should have won the Oscars in 2014... I mean it is the same movie as people have reported, just different actors. Not sure if there is more to it.

 

[TiggrToo]

but if it is really only a remake then La Famille Bélier should have won the Oscars in 2014... I mean it is the same movie as people have reported, just different actors. Not sure if there is more to it.

Nothing worse than soneone supplying an opinion on a subject they admit they know nothing about.

If you've not watched either then why should your opinion mean anything? Life isn't full of black and white rules.

Coda, for example, is so much more than just a remake. The original was made with a slew of well known French actors, none of whom were deaf.

This was something producer Philippe Rousselet and director Sian Heder wanted to fix, and star Marlee Matlin had to fight the backers to allow this to happen.

To facilitate the deaf actors, the production hired a rotating group of ASL translators to make the deaf actors feel fully embraced.

That alone raises the remake to a higher bar.