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Apple TV Games from Pangea Software Support 3DTVs

I'm so happy to see Pangea thriving. I remember being 14 or 15 years old and I emailed their head developer, the one that always took the stage at WWDC for demos, asking for some advice on iOS and Mac development and telling him how much I enjoyed his company's products. To my surprise he responded! He said how great it was that I was learning development and that I should keep at it. If I recall he may have even sent some source code from Cro-Mag Rally or Enigmo or something. Well I took it to heart, and am now employed as development intern at an ad agency and pursuing my CS degree! I hope to be as patient and influential as that man was when the time comes. A little encouragement and advice really goes a long way, especially when you're that young.
 
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Would be nice if Apple would sell 3D movies via iTunes.
But I guess they won't, even if the ATV4 could really support movie 3D formats.
 
benjitek said:
The 20 people who purchased those TV's will be thrilled ;-)
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I bought one of those TVs. Not because I wanted 3D, but just because it came included. I think I tried it out once. Don't know where the glasses are, so don't think I could try it again. Still, I think playing games might be a place where 3D might actually be a good thing.
 
TallGuyGT said:
I miss 3D gaming on the PS3. It made racing games in particular very immersive. The Motorstorm 3D games were awesome. I didn't expect the AppleTV to have native 3D support, but side-by-side works.

If you haven't tried true 3D gaming, it can be very impressive. Much better than the post converted 3D crap movies that Hollywood puts out.
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Gran Turismo was outstanding in 3D, it really pushed the system! Combined with a racing wheel and sat only a couple of feet away from the TV it was super immersive.

Cuban Missles said:
I bought one of those TVs. Not because I wanted 3D, but just because it came included. I think I tried it out once. Don't know where the glasses are, so don't think I could try it again. Still, I think playing games might be a place where 3D might actually be a good thing.
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3D has been available on home consoles for a while and it never caught on (I made a 3D-supported game for the PS3 and even with a huge number of players very few used it in 3D). I buy 3D Blurays - films work great but games lose definition.

But! The 3DS is great, and commercial virtual reality is just around the corner.
 
I honestly couldn't tell a whole lot of difference between 4k and just normal HD to be honest especially when almost all U.S. signals don't provide it. It's like buying a porche and only driving 25mph... but hey, it looks cool. It's a number's game. This is a first run of Apple TV with app store on it and will likely provide a bump in specs down the road.

But as it stands right now, it doesn't take Apple much to allow 3d games/video... It DOES for 4k.

btw, some 4k people strike me as serious snobs about the picture quality. I get the picture is better but cmon.... You could sit me in front of two tvs, one with 1080p and one 4k and I wouldn't notice as much than when you sat me in front of a SD tv and an HDtv which was night/day.
 
brinary001 said:
I'm so happy to see Pangea thriving. I remember being 14 or 15 years old and I emailed their head developer, the one that always took the stage at WWDC for demos, asking for some advice on iOS and Mac development and telling him how much I enjoyed his company's products. To my surprise he responded! He said how great it was that I was learning development and that I should keep at it. If I recall he may have even sent some source code from Cro-Mag Rally or Enigmo or something. Well I took it to heart, and am now employed as development intern at an ad agency and pursuing my CS degree! I hope to be as patient and influential as that man was when the time comes. A little encouragement and advice really goes a long way, especially when you're that young.
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Believe it or not I actually remember you! Good to hear you're pursuing it!

-Brian
 
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Scottcy said:
Once the 3DTV converts/merges the side by side then that is what the image looks like prior to putting on your glasses.
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I've played 3D movies previously through my old AppleTV (SBS videos, via Home Sharing) and while the videos play great, any AppleTV popups/overlays/icons etc. are messed up because they aren't in the SBS format - obviously. I assume it'll be the same with these games.

If you turn on 3D after the game has loaded and no other popups or notifications etc. from the OS appear, it'll be perfectly fine. If they do, they'll be nigh unreadable, you'll have to turn off 3D to view them.
 
Now all we need are some more decent games supporting it. I guess christmas holidays will be fune this year.
 
whooleytoo said:
I've played 3D movies previously through my old AppleTV (SBS videos, via Home Sharing) and while the videos play great, any AppleTV popups/overlays/icons etc. are messed up because they aren't in the SBS format - obviously. I assume it'll be the same with these games.

If you turn on 3D after the game has loaded and no other popups or notifications etc. from the OS appear, it'll be perfectly fine. If they do, they'll be nigh unreadable, you'll have to turn off 3D to view them.
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That is correct, however, if your 3DTV supports auto-detect mode (like my Sony does) then it will automatically switch from 3D back to 2D whenever a UIKit dialog appears, and then return to 3D when it goes back to the game.

-Brian
 
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fitshaced said:
It's hard not to buy a 3D tv these days even if you don't want that feature. They all seem to have it, or at least they did a year ago when I went tv shopping.
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You mean it's hard not to buy a 4k TV these days. 3D TVs died over years ago. 3D TVs are a gimmick and I'm glad it's dead.
 
friedmud said:
One note on this: using side-by-side to get 3D cuts the horizontal resolution in half... So each eye really sees 960x1080 pixels.

Not a deal breaker... but not as ideal as the ATV supporting proper 3D: 1080P frame interleaving like 3D BluRay players.

Still cool... but Apple really missed an opportunity to load up the ATV with some differentiating features from some of those other "sticks".
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There are other 3D communication protocols that allow interlaced images, alternating frames, and some form of 3D encoding alongside the full image. I can manually switch my (Sony) tv between options in case there is an input that doesn't supply the correct configuration signal.
Advantages of each vary, but I presume that the appletv doesn't actually natively produce and output 3D, so the better options and config signal aren't available, and it is up to the TV to realise the image should be a 3D one.
 
my ATV 3 and 2 both play 3d movies to my projector in SBS and OU formats so other then the game this is nothing new but still coool
 
Cool. Will definitely try this. I have a 3D 1080 projector, a new Apple TV, and am still reeling from the mess that is the Netflix app. Need something fun to distract me.
 
Brian Greenstone said:
Almost all 4k TV's I've seen lately also have 3D.

-Brian
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Yup, it's actually really easily to add. You just need to add an alternating polarising filter (to make stripes of each polarisation type) and the rest is software. The problem is that you get half the resolution, but on a 4K TV you can afford to do that and still output a 1080p 3D image.

...for passive 3D, that is. But apparently most people find that more comfortable, and with 4K TVs the resolution tradeoff that made active 3D a thing isn't such a big deal.

Dagless said:
Gran Turismo was outstanding in 3D, it really pushed the system! Combined with a racing wheel and sat only a couple of feet away from the TV it was super immersive.

3D has been available on home consoles for a while and it never caught on (I made a 3D-supported game for the PS3 and even with a huge number of players very few used it in 3D). I buy 3D Blurays - films work great but games lose definition.

But! The 3DS is great, and commercial virtual reality is just around the corner.
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There are still some 3D games; for the ones that support it, I always prefer to play them in 3D. Super Stardust on the PS4, for example, is just brilliant. Trine also supports it.
 
springsup said:
There are still some 3D games; for the ones that support it, I always prefer to play them in 3D. Super Stardust on the PS4, for example, is just brilliant. Trine also supports it.
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Huh! I didn't know SSU had 3D support. I'll give that a go later. I haven't been using 3D on my PS4 that much, I don't know if I've disabled an option by accident but I don't get asked if I want to enable 3D like my PS3 does.
 
anek007 said:
You mean it's hard not to buy a 4k TV these days. 3D TVs died over years ago. 3D TVs are a gimmick and I'm glad it's dead.
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3D isn't dead. They're still selling 3D films on blurays, 3D film tickets still get sold in similar numbers, games have stereoscopic 3D options, the 3DS is selling great, and Virtual Reality is literally just around the corner.
 
I wish Apple would rent 3D movies on the AppleTV. I have to use Vudu on the PS4 to rent them now, and the selection isn't that great. Most big action theatrical releases are 3D, a little odd they wouldn't want the extra revenue (unless home demand really is that small). Yes, I know many of you hate 3D movies, but you wouldn't be forced to rent/buy them either. Movies shot in 3D can be very immersive, especially on a larger TV.
 
I still fondly remember Weekend Warrior (even though it pretty much always ended with Lemur Chow).
Would the appleTV not be a good opportunity to re-release this?
 
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