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This is crushing for Netflix.

Apple will add more and more content and a Netflix has lost A LOT of content recently. Netflix doesn’t have nearly the cash or cash flow to outspend Apple and Disney.

NFLX rightfully down big today.
 
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And here’s your free streaming service ladies and gentleman.

Unless, you don’t buy a new Apple hardware each year which makes me question your existence in these forums.

Some of us can’t afford new shiny every year, especially at Apple prices. I just bought new shiny at the end of last month.
[doublepost=1568148125][/doublepost]So if I bought a new MacBook Pro less than a month ago, do I get the free year?
 
NFLX rightfully down big today.

About two percent, that's not big. Apple is making it cheap because they can lose money on it and because with the limited content they are offering they have to make it cheap. If streaming companies should be worried about a six hundred pound gorilla, it's Disney.
 
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About two percent, that's not big. Apple is making it cheap because they can lose money on it and because with the limited content they are offering they have to make it cheap. If streaming companies should be worried about a six hundred pound gorilla, it's Disney.
Zoom out on NFLX since Apple and Disney have entered this space, particularly Disney. NFLX recovered some today from the lows. Netflix also still trades at a stupid valuation with much brighter days assumed ahead, which I don’t believe with this competition.

Netflix is no longer the only streamer in town and they are in trouble. Didn’t build a big enough lead and now the real competition starts.

Netflix needs more cash and way better content.

Disney is surely a bigger threat now...this is still a hobby for Apple. However, Apple can outspend everyone. As an example, they could just buy Disney if they wanted to. Content is all about money.
 
From what I understand that there are only 4-5 shows that are ready to stream and no other content... $4.99 a month for?
That seems to be the case - the free content will be very limited, although updated every month. You will still need to buy/rent most movies and TV shows. It would be nice if they offered a discount for ATV+ subscribers for this.
ATV+ will cost $7.99 per month in Australia. Doesn't look like a bargain to me.
 
cant price it much more competitively than that.
Disney: Disney+ $6.99
Apple: Hold my beer
Lol Apple going the android route. Just be cheap, people will buy

$60/year is certainly not a bad price... but if it's only going to show new Apple-produced shows, it is starting off with a pretty small range of content c.f. the competition.

Although Netflix may not be what it was (people who joined when it was essentially movies may be justifiably disappointed) you not only get their original content (some of which is very good) but a huge catalogue of other stuff to watch in between new seasons of Stranger Things and Black Mirror (or whatever floats your boat). Likewise Amazon Prime (...the 'cost' of which depends on how much you use the free Amazon chuck-package-in-general-direction-of-your house service) which (at least in the UK) I've found has got a lot better recently.

...and Disney, of course, now owns the rights to 50% of popular culture, and starts of with a ridiculous head start.

I may find myself buying a new Apple TV when Foundation comes out... maybe...

Streaming services are lame. They told us to cut cable but now you have to have several small accounts that add up.

Streaming services have, so far, offered pretty good value c.f. satellite and cable packages - with some original content backed up by a huge library of third party stuff, but that's under threat now as all the content owners are clawing back their content so that they can set up their own streaming services and get in on the money, while Netflix et. al. are jacking up the price so that they can make their own content. So yeah, the way its heading now is that - rather than getting just, say, Netflix + Amazon and having enough change left over to buy the odd 'box set' that they don't offer, the industry is going to try and force us to pay 4/5/6/7.99 per month to every TV studio who's new content or back catalog we want to watch.

Will probably backfire for everyone but Disney (who have such a huge back catalog, plus a constant supply of newly-minted ankle-biters who haven't seen Frozen yet and parents who like to sleep occasionally).
 
It might be a free year for every new device purchased. It might be limited to one for the lifetime of the Apple ID
Guess we'll have to wait and see. In any case, since Apple TV will be adding new shows every month to their lineup, even those who say that $4.99 a month is too much for four shows won't be able to make that argument come November 2020.

In a couple of years, Apple TV+ will have a nice catalog of Apple-produced content. Possibly they'll even bid for exclusive rights to stream movies and TV shows that aren't already tied to another streaming service.
 
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Well I think it's time to retire the old ATV3 in the bedroom, put the HD in there and get a 4K. Between 3% back on the card and $60 in value for TV+ that 4K looks nicely discounted!
 
Great price point. But what other content will be there? Latest movies?
 
No. Just apple’s original content.

What?? They must be kidding??? Netflix has thousands of movies for just a few bucks more! Amazon Prime has tens of thousands of movies for the same price.
 
Great price point. But what other content will be there? Latest movies?
Not exactly sure. I’ve read that Apple has been buying rights to films for some time now. Not sure if they will qualify as Apple Originals or not. We’ll have to ‘watch this space’ between now and the 1st of November, I suppose!
 
What?? They must be kidding??? Netflix has thousands of movies for just a few bucks more! Amazon Prime has tens of thousands of movies for the same price.
Yep.

Of course, a lot of that content is terrible.

Don’t subscribe to apple’s offering for variety.
 
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