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Huh? Microsoft is already shipping something similar - how can it be "revolutionary" that Apple is rumoured to be looking at it?

how? because it'll be magical, and microsoft is a big bag of hurting fail that can't innovate and always fall back on copying apple. something like that.
 
The 360 works great for network video playback. And if you use Rivet (OSX) you can even stream your iTunes and iPhoto library to it. With that said, the 360 is a beast if only used for video playback.

As it burns through more electricity than a 1950's refrigerator....
 
So what market exactly can you grab 32% of by 'ONLY' selling 4 million units? That's a bloody small market!
Sure still looks like a hobby to me? Really fail to see what is so successful about 4 million sales in the television content providing market?

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As it burns through more electricity than a 1950's refrigerator....

Think you need to come back to 2011 mate and take a look at the latest 360's power usage :rolleyes:
 
Wow, 4M is far more than I would have guessed.

We're a joint PS3/aTV family - for watching "stuff", aTV is the default choice.

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Think you need to come back to 2011 mate and take a look at the latest 360's power usage

Current Xbox power supply: 115W.

Current aTV2 power supply: 6W.

20x difference.


Indeed.
 
Wow, 4M is far more than I would have guessed.

We're a joint PS3/aTV family - for watching "stuff", aTV is the default choice.

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Current Xbox power supply: 115W.

Current aTV2 power supply: 6W.

20x difference.

Indeed.


hahaha, you still got it wrong! And I suggest you read mate before replying: As it burns through more electricity than a 1950's refrigerator....

Do you see the Apple TV mentioned in that statement? No? I didn't think so.......
 
Who needs an Apple TV when you have an XBOX. Love the new updates to the UI as well as the ability to control it by both voice as well as hand gestures via the Kinect. And I can do a LOT more on the XBOX than you can on your little black box.

It is afterall an Apple product overpriced (ok this one is priced right), that is great eye-candy, but technologically at least 2 years outdated.

The only people that buy content via the Apple TV are those that really shouldn't (because they really can't afford to) or those that are in the OWS 1%. You would be an indiot if you spent $12 a day every weekday to watch 4 hours of TV shows, and even more on weekends.

Apple TV is simply another attempt by the evil empire to suck you dry.
 
If you go to the site they do not include the PS3 or 360 in the report... I knew something was up - Microsoft sold 800,000 360 just on black friday and 1.7 mill in the month of NOV.

I had an ATV2... but went back to my PS3 - I can save my videos right in the drive, watch Blurays, DVDs and stream all my music and videos from my mac mini to it via EYE Connect... wish it would get HBOGO like the 360 thou :(

guess if you only have 99 dollars an Apple TV is good enough

Yep, people are afraid to admit that something outsells an Apple product. The Apple TV will never outsell a gaming system that is catered to video games. The Wii has sold over 50 million units but I guess to some people that isn't enough.
 
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Current Xbox power supply: 115W.

Current aTV2 power supply: 6W.

20x difference.

Just going to point out to you that power supply != power usage. That being said it still going to be near a 20x difference.

Also aTV2 is very limited in what it can do. If you were just going to use a 360 for say streaming and watching movies yeah I could call it a waste but the real power of the 360 is the fact that it can do so much more than aTV2.

360 is a great game system that has a long list of bonuses that it can do. Hell I use my 360 90% of the time to play games but streaming media from my computer to it is also great.

For me the 360 replaced other boxes under my TV as it took on the job of DVD player and streaming media. The game system is there no matter what. I plan to in the future buy a 720 providing it has bluray.
 
Who is buying this thing, really?

The TV show and movie selection is very poor and extremely overpriced. There is no DVD or Blu Ray playback, and anything you want to stream to it from your computer has to be in a specific format or it won't work. It doesn't stream TV shows from free online services like BBC iPlayer or ITV Player and it doesn't have Spotify integration.

Couple that with no support for 1080p and the purchased videos being extremely compressed and I'm confused. It might be cheap, but as the iFans seem to agree about Kindle Fire, buy cheap and you get less - it's certainly the case with Apple TV.

I can spend £100 on this or £150-200 on a PS3 or Xbox 360 - both of which do live TV as well.

I wouldn't trade my LG WiFi Blu-ray player for an Apple TV. It does Netflix, Pandora, YouTube, and other services plus it plays Blu-rays and DVDs. It also does true 1080p which the Apple TV can't. It just seems like a better device what what I use it for. As far as audio goes I just use an Airport Express and use my iPad as the remote. Also LG has an iOS remote application as well so I can use my iPad as a remote for the BD player as well.
 
There's no reason to get an Apple TV here as we only get the App Store on iTunes.

Plus, there's voice recognition on Xbox that works very well too.
 
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Plus, there's voice recognition on Xbox that works very well too.

Q: Siri - why does Microsoft have voice control for video already, and Apple only has rumours of a potential future system based on a couple of vague references in the biography of the late turtle-necked overlord?

A: uh...uh...uh...uh... <brak> Please power off your Idevice and reboot!
 
Still a hobby and it shows

I have an ATV2 and I like it but I'm not thrilled about it. My reasons are:

1) Rentals are expensive! Be reasonable Apple. Give us Blockbuster prices.
2) The interface is clunky. Using with the remote is ok but many of us have iPod, iPhones, and iPads so improve the remote application so the ATV shows a representation of the ATV interface on the iDevice so you don't have to to keep looking from the iDevice to the TV.
3) Make the ATV smarter so it will play segmented shows automatically. My brother has an iPhone and says his iPhone can do this. Why not an ATV?
 
All I want is the WatchESPN app to get ESPN3 content on my TV.
I have no idea why this isn't [easily] possible with ATV2.

And I know you can accomplish this through Xbox, but I don't want an Xbox. And I don't want to have to pay for Xbox Live either.
 
They need to hurry up & come out with the apple tv 3 , i want to give my father my current apple tv
 
Q: Siri - why does Microsoft have voice control for video already, and Apple only has rumours of a potential future system based on a couple of vague references in the biography of the late turtle-necked overlord?

A: uh...uh...uh...uh... <brak> Please power off your Idevice and reboot!

Voice Commands vs Natural Speech
As well as a responses from a system with a personality I guess by reading your comment.
Also the fact that they're 2 completely different products may have something to do with it.
 
Mostly kids own Xbox 360 and don't rent movies. Mom & Dad own Apple TV and rent movies. Mom & Dad do not turn on or want to turn on Xbox.

The Average gamer is 37yrs old and the video game console seems to be the weapon of choice for streaming Netflix. Not to mention that MS is cracking open the door to having the 360 replace traditional cable/satellite boxes.

Apple certainly has upset traditional market players in the past but they've yet to show anything w/:apple:TV to set it apart from it's competitors in any meaningful way. Sure, it ties into the iTunes store but the video side of the store isn't nearly as successful as the music or app sides.


Lethal
 
I have an ATV2 and I like it but I'm not thrilled about it. My reasons are:

1) Rentals are expensive! Be reasonable Apple. Give us Blockbuster prices.
2) The interface is clunky. Using with the remote is ok but many of us have iPod, iPhones, and iPads so improve the remote application so the ATV shows a representation of the ATV interface on the iDevice so you don't have to to keep looking from the iDevice to the TV.
3) Make the ATV smarter so it will play segmented shows automatically. My brother has an iPhone and says his iPhone can do this. Why not an ATV?

But a true Apple aficionado would want to pay more so that Apple makes a bigger profit.
 
Microsoft doesn't have such a huge marketshare outside of the USA. I'm Canadian and I still think it's too big and requires way too much power for what it delivers. The :apple:TV costs a lot less than the Xbox 360, is much smaller and fits neatly next to a television. And the interface of the :apple:TV is much cleaner and a lot easier to understand and navigate than the one on the Xbox 360.

The Wii can also stream Netflix, and the installed base of Wii is much higher than Xbox. I'm also wondering if Microsoft is counting all the replaced Xbox 360 in their numbers.

i have to disagree, the new Xbox dashboard that just came out this month puts the Xbox 360 ahead of the Apple Tv on a clean and easy interface.

2011-Xbox-360-dashboard.jpg
 
Voice Commands vs Natural Speech
As well as a responses from a system with a personality I guess by reading your comment.
Also the fact that they're 2 completely different products may have something to do with it.

Are you saying Siri talks like it has a personality? :eek::eek:

Because if you are then you may as well state TomTom has a personality because of the way it tells you the directions!!! You SERIOUSLY need more contact with humans if you think Siri has a 'personality' feel to it!

And I'm sorry to all the haters, but it's very clear that the Kinect is a much more advance, successful, clever, ground breaking interface then Siri.
 
Uhhhh-parently 32% of the set-top box market. And there's many more using iTunes that don't use Apple TV's.

Then close to a billion want to use windows, and >100% (comparatively) prefer the Xbox to the aTV. Further, does this STB-survey even include all STBs to begin with? Surely, there are more than 12M STB's out there today?
 
Then close to a billion want to use windows, and >100% (comparatively) prefer the Xbox to the aTV. Further, does this STB-survey even include all STBs to begin with? Surely, there are more than 12M STB's out there today?

The approx. number of Apple TV's sold is estimated to be 12+ million by the end of 2011. So that being 32% of the market, the STB market is approx. 37+ million.
 
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