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Apple TV, Siri Targeted in EU Broadcaster Complaint Citing DMA Rules
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"Notably, the broadcasters' letter asks the Commission to apply the DMA based on "qualitative criteria," even where platforms don't hit the usual quantitative benchmarks outlined in the regulations.
The request may sound like it's on shaky ground, but the DMA does actually have a provision for this circumstance – the EC can designate a company as a gatekeeper even if it doesn't meet the hard numeric thresholds stated above. It can look instead at factors like the platform's size, number of business users, network effects, lock-in, and structural market characteristics. In fact, this is how the Commission designated iPadOS as having gatekeeper status, even though it didn't meet the quantitative threshold."
The EU can kick rocks.
At least the EU doesn't need to recount the rocks three times to accept they’re there.
Yet ironically, this issue is raised on "qualitative criteria" and not any quantitative facts. The glorious DMA allows for this subjective criteria so everyone and their brother can shout that they don't like something and demand their government fix it for them. I get it though, it would be too much to ask that they just follow the more "rational approach" and buy the other product.
They might just want to be able to sell their product on Apple TV devices. I know you can buy/rent through Amazon, but that's only because of a special deal Apple granted them. I'd love to have competitive pricing in the Apple TV environment.
artifex
macrumors 6502a
Maybe, once or twice (a day). But the little bit I saw in the intro to the Oscars was enough for me.
artifex
macrumors 6502a
I'm trying to figure out which one is Darmok, and which one is Jalad.
You're Temba, with arms wide.
You're not wrong.
BUT.
I think Tim Apple still hold some big sway with the orange penguin. That half a Trillion dollar investment in the US is not a nothing burger.
I take zero responsibility for the DJT's previous or current presidency. 😉
Surprisingly their prices for “purchasing” shows are surprisingly competitive, it’s the interface that constantly gets worse.
Unrelated to the topic but after auto corrupt changed “shows are” to “shoes are” well after I was past that part of that sentence, that’s it, I’m turning it off. I’ll fix my own actual typos rather than autocorrupt making them for me.
Cesar Battistini
macrumors 6502
Hope apple cancels revamped Siri and the new TV software on the EU. They can live with their own tech.
The fact that it’s so hard to cancel Tells you that EU is not out to make things better for users/subscribers, just like with the App Store and paying outside the App Store!
rp2011
macrumors 68040
Better yet, give them what they want. They want advertisers to easier track consumers. Give them that and feed them tons of targeted ads.
Good call. Let’s punish them by forcing them to keep their privacy laws and universal chargers while we enjoy the 'innovation' of a $1,000 screen stand and a healthcare system that costs more than a Vision Pro just to look at an X-ray.
Have you been to a gas station lately?
Yeah, give them targeted ads while they use the money they saved on free healthcare to buy things they actually want. Meanwhile, we can enjoy our personalized commercials for debt consolidation while paying $500 for an EpiPen and $2,000 a month for a studio apartment with 'industrial charm' (exposed pipes and a broken heater).
rp2011
macrumors 68040
"Listen, I’ve always said, I love Europe. I have a lot of friends there, great people, very smart. And what they’ve built with the EU, it’s incredible, frankly. They have a system—some people call it 'free stuff,' but I call it a smart deal for their citizens. They’ve got these healthy, educated workers, the best in the world, and they’ve created a market of 450 million people. It’s huge!
If our big tech companies—the biggest, most beautiful companies we have—want to come in and make billions and billions of dollars off those people, they have to respect the rules. You can't just take and take; you have to contribute to the neighborhood. The EU is just being tough, like I’m tough. They’re protecting their people, their culture, their infrastructure. They’re saying, 'If you want to play in the best sandbox, you’ve got to help keep it clean.' And I respect that. It’s about fairness, it’s about reciprocity. We’re going to work together, we’re going to make the greatest deals ever seen, and frankly, a strong Europe is a win for everybody!
Thank you for your attention to this matter."
I just skim these forums so I miss a lot of comments and didn't see that one. Going back and reading it now, I don't agree with it, but the commenter wasn't being offensive towards Europeans. As for criticizing the EU, that's misplaced until/if something comes from this petition.
As for laughing at one of your comments -- weren't you trying to be funny? It seemed like you were, so I laughed. It's great to laugh. I laugh at myself several times each day.
Hold your horses! Fact is:
“A coalition of Europe's biggest broadcasters is pushing the EU to bring smart TV platforms like Apple TV and virtual assistants like Siri under the bloc's toughest tech regulation, reports Reuters. … The European Commission confirmed it received the letter and is reviewing it.”
The complaint comes not from the regulators but from the broadcasters association which includes US companies. The EUC agreed to review the complaint. No decision has been made yet.
I know, right? 😂
You can poke the Americans with trigger words like "EU", and some of them will come running, arguing against the EU without even reading the story... 😂
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artifex
macrumors 6502a
You think we have time for that? It's not like we get a month off for vacation.
Or even a couple weeks.
Lets talk again, when the FCC made your existing WiFi equipment so insecure that you had to throw it out and buy new very expensive StarLink routers. LOL
US bans new foreign-made consumer internet routers
There are almost no major brands of internet routers that are manufactured in the US.
www.bbc.com
EDIT: Sorry for bringing facts into this. But this made me laugh so hard...
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