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40% stock drop.... someones PR team is getting duummpppeeddd!!!!!

PR should have never let them say a WORD!
 
Didn't they say that Siri didn't go to the iPhone 4 because of it's lack of this Noise Suppression tech? :rolleyes:

Suggests that the new phone has some other noise suppression tech, no?

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Wireless charging without the use of charging mats remains as compelling as ever.

Who does that? I've not seen such an innovation in a smartphone but, yes, being able to wirelessly charge at a distance, say up to five feet from the charging point, would be compelling indeed.
 
I'm sure they have a comparable technology in the 5. Either they went in house (likely) or they got another provider (still likely). Regardless, noise suppression isn't exactly a trivial feature given Siri.

Also, a 40% drop... OUCH. I'm sure the company will do fine given the technology and it's importance.
 
Wireless charging without the use of charging mats remains as compelling as ever.
One of the shortcomings of charging maps is that it's only useful in one place unless you haul the mat around. Plus, charging mats take up more space (e.g., desktop real estate) than a regular charger's cord and both have to be plugged in anyhow.

A wireless charging zone would be more attractive, however wireless charging needs to be fairly efficient to be a viable consumer technology, at least as efficient as wired charging. If it takes twice as long to wirelessly charge a phone, forget it.
 
except that it's STILL in beta

that irks me and it's constantly used as an excuse

Irks me that there are people who don't understand why it has been in beta so long and just assume it is used an excuse for it not working properly all the time.

Software can be in beta for as long as the developer feels it needs to be. There are many reasons why. For starters, working bugs out, adding features, scaling server bandwidth, testing on a mass scale. Second, Siri is a learning technology, meaning that it needs a ton of input in order to learn all the various dialects and speech patterns in each language it supports. That could take a very long time. This technology is still in its infancy and when Apple feels version 1.0 is ready, then they take it out of beta.
 
Even if this is the case, no one made them sign it.

As "rumors" unfold and Apple's recent neglect of updates, if they had their way we'd be using soup cans and string for the new "new" iPhone
 

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If the chip was incorporated into A5, and Apple is not using this technology anymore, could it mean we will see an A6?
 
-53.34% now... With a market cap of 383.55 Million, thats a loss of about 205 Million...
 
I'm as much of an Apple fanboy as they come, especially when it comes to the iPhone. And for all I know, Audience's technology isn't quite up to Apple's standards (or Apple has some other good reason for not including it). But at some point we have to ask ourselves: what does the iPhone 5 have for those of us who don't care about [drum roll] a taller screen? Noise Suppresion? Appears unlikely. Near Field Communication? Appears unlikely. LTE? Probably, so that you can blow the roof off your data consumption limit quicker each month. Moved headphone jack? Whoopee. Liquid metal? So what. Thinner? I.don't.care.

Not trying to be a Debbie Downer. But I've owned an iPhone since June 29, 2007 (was first in line at a store), and I see a trend where Apple has no significant competition out there to drive it to do anything more than the most incrimental of changes.

I hope I'm wrong. I hope there is something special about this new iPhone beyond it being "this new iPhone."
 
except that it's STILL in beta

that irks me and it's constantly used as an excuse

why? Google is perpetually in Beta, with everything. Anything can change tomorrow.

Here is a technology that Apple needs to develop. You only get very, very good at it after you have something "out there" on the network, once you have a little of it working very well, then you fine-tune and add. An individual program can be written in private. A network app has to be on the net somehow.

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I'm as much of an Apple fanboy as they come, especially when it comes to the iPhone. And for all I know, Audience's technology isn't quite up to Apple's standards (or Apple has some other good reason for not including it). But at some point we have to ask ourselves: what does the iPhone 5 have for those of us who don't care about [drum roll] a taller screen? Noise Suppresion? Appears unlikely. Near Field Communication? Appears unlikely. LTE? Probably, so that you can blow the roof off your data consumption limit quicker each month. Moved headphone jack? Whoopee. Liquid metal? So what. Thinner? I.don't.care.

Not trying to be a Debbie Downer. But I've owned an iPhone since June 29, 2007 (was first in line at a store), and I see a trend where Apple has no significant competition out there to drive it to do anything more than the most incrimental of changes.

I hope I'm wrong. I hope there is something special about this new iPhone beyond it being "this new iPhone."

But you ARE a Debbie Downer.
 
This is why you do not tie to much of your business with Apple as they can and will turn on you at the drop of a hat.
 
I'm as much of an Apple fanboy as they come, especially when it comes to the iPhone. And for all I know, Audience's technology isn't quite up to Apple's standards (or Apple has some other good reason for not including it). But at some point we have to ask ourselves: what does the iPhone 5 have for those of us who don't care about [drum roll] a taller screen? Noise Suppresion? Appears unlikely. Near Field Communication? Appears unlikely. LTE? Probably, so that you can blow the roof off your data consumption limit quicker each month. Moved headphone jack? Whoopee. Liquid metal? So what. Thinner? I.don't.care.

Not trying to be a Debbie Downer. But I've owned an iPhone since June 29, 2007 (was first in line at a store), and I see a trend where Apple has no significant competition out there to drive it to do anything more than the most incrimental of changes.

I hope I'm wrong. I hope there is something special about this new iPhone beyond it being "this new iPhone."

I think noise suppression is highly likely - just not this lot's one.

But, well, what exactly would you want to see? What exactly would make you excited for a new smartphone of any kind, let alone a new iPhone?
 
I must say, it seems Apple are often reluctant to include latest technologies in their devices. For example, the Nokia Lumia 920 announced this week has wireless charging. Apple have said they're not including NFC payments with the iPhone 5 and now this noise thing. I know Apple are often about coming up with their own technologies, but other phones will be more up to date than the iPhone 5 even before it comes out.

First of all, Apple NEVER said they weren't interested in using NFC. All the blogs and rumor sites have speculated that. Apple NEVER said they weren't using noise cancellation. Apparently Audience has stated that Apple wasn't using theirs.

Apple makes one new model of phone per year... they go for the mass market, not the niche techno-nerd market who above all other things like to compare cock size rather than how romantic they can be. If a (hardware) technology doesn't have mass appeal or isn't ubiquitous, then chances are Apple is not going to put it in their devices.
 
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I think noise suppression is highly likely - just not this lot's one.

But, well, what exactly would you want to see? What exactly would make you excited for a new smartphone of any kind, let alone a new iPhone?

Fair question. First, I want Airplay and mirroring to work independent of an existing wifi. In other words. I want to be on an island with an Airplay speaker or Apple TV and my iPhone send the content without the need of an independent/existing network. I've read that this is rumored (here, I believe). That's a good start. Second, get Siri running better or drop it until it's ready. They rolled it out too soon. Yes, part of Siri is to learn over time and so on and so forth, but I find Siri to be awkward and clunky and not half as useful as the marketing suggests. Third, make the iPhone's Finder capable of digging deeper, like Finder on Mac. Allow it to search inside emails and such. Fourth, allow apps that I choose to run "in full" in the background, not halfway as they do now. Fifth, how about a native turn-by-turn map app? How hard is that for Apple?

Those would make me happy.
 
So other than IOS 6 (yawn) and a slightly taller and tweaked iphone 4 design.. really WTF is new...

Unless we are getting the biggest missinformation campaign ever is happening.. apple is sucking hard for this iphone.
 
This is why you do not tie to much of your business with Apple as they can and will turn on you at the drop of a hat.

This is a risk you take when you're in the component business. If you're selling one small part of something to a company, you always have to worry if another company will come up and make something superior and take your customers from you. This is what drives innovation in industries, the constant need to make something better to keep your business alive. (Unless of course you have collusion or a monopoly, then industries tend to stagnate.)

You can't blame Apple for over-reactive investors.
 
Doesn't it frighten you at least a little bit that being rejected by Apple has the ability to drop a third-party company stock by nearly half?

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Fair question. First, I want Airplay and mirroring to work independent of an existing wifi. In other words. I want to be on an island with an Airplay speaker or Apple TV and my iPhone send the content without the need of an independent/existing network. I've read that this is rumored (here, I believe). That's a good start. Second, get Siri running better or drop it until it's ready. They rolled it out too soon. Yes, part of Siri is to learn over time and so on and so forth, but I find Siri to be awkward and clunky and not half as useful as the marketing suggests. Third, make the iPhone's Finder capable of digging deeper, like Finder on Mac. Allow it to search inside emails and such. Fourth, allow apps that I choose to run "in full" in the background, not halfway as they do now. Fifth, how about a native turn-by-turn map app? How hard is that for Apple?

Those would make me happy.

Would you like for Apple to build you a real working time machine (not the Time Machine product line, an actual time machine)? Would that finally satisfy your needs?

Also, there is no Finder on iOS. iOS has SpringBoard and it has absolutely nothing in common with Finder (with the exception of having the ability to launch apps)
 
Fair question. First, I want Airplay and mirroring to work independent of an existing wifi. In other words. I want to be on an island with an Airplay speaker or Apple TV and my iPhone send the content without the need of an independent/existing network. I've read that this is rumored (here, I believe). That's a good start. Second, get Siri running better or drop it until it's ready. They rolled it out too soon. Yes, part of Siri is to learn over time and so on and so forth, but I find Siri to be awkward and clunky and not half as useful as the marketing suggests. Third, make the iPhone's Finder capable of digging deeper, like Finder on Mac. Allow it to search inside emails and such. Fourth, allow apps that I choose to run "in full" in the background, not halfway as they do now. Fifth, how about a native turn-by-turn map app? How hard is that for Apple?

Those would make me happy.

Well, OK.

The Airplay Direct item seems likely and iOS6 has some very interesting new Blutooth enabled stuff in it that will make streaming wirelessly easy - I believe they're even doing a fully API whatsit for devs to integrate their apps easily.

Siri is being updated in a big way in iOS6 and, of course, is always improving. i don't know why, however, you'd prefer them to drop it if they didn't make it work much better. I mean, why is having it as an option a problem? You can turn it off if you don't want it.

Deeper finder stuff, yeah, that would be cool. That said, it already searches inside SMS messages but not inside emails. Would be a nice feature but I can't see that it would be mind blowing stuff.

Why would you want apps to run "in full" in the background. I mean, what would be the benefit of that over what they can currently do? Right now they can complete tasks like uploading and downloading content etc. get push notifications and stream audio etc. What is it you want to be able to do with a background app that you can't currently do?

iOS 6 on the new iPhone and the 4S has native turn by turn.
 
Would you like for Apple to build you a real working time machine (not the Time Machine product line, an actual time machine)? Would that finally satisfy your needs?

Jesus.

Chill.

Take a deep breath, read all my posts on this page, and understand that all I'm asking for is something more than the most mundane of incrimental improvements.

And my apologies for calling Springboard "Finder." No doubt Steve is rolling in his grave.
 
So other than IOS 6 (yawn) and a slightly taller and tweaked iphone 4 design.. really WTF is new...

Unless we are getting the biggest missinformation campaign ever is happening.. apple is sucking hard for this iphone.

4G LTE? New dock connector? Possible A6 chip?

I am confused by comments like this. Can you enlighten me as to what you expect for a redesign? Or the software update?
 
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