I"m not sure it matters much honestly. its not like the 4G days. if the apple 5G modem is 10% slower, it will still be fast enough for 99% of people. I doubt apple will put it in their higher end iPhones for now, but i wouldn't doubt that it will go into M5 MacBooks.
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Apple Unveils 'C1' as First Custom Cellular Modem
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So After 5+ years of Apple moving mountains, they finally manage to come out with a Modem on what was supposed to be out in 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023...... No 2024 because Macrumors commentators finally realise may be it isn't happening.
But only for the new model to charge at higher price, where are the supposed savings Macrumors commentators have been suggesting Apple doesn't have to pay a single dollar for patents to Qualcomm? In case it still isn't clear. Apple still have to pay Qualcomm for 4G/ 5G wireless patents.
Or May be it is 2025 we can finally say they were wrong. And let the Apple Modem Meme die.
But only for the new model to charge at higher price, where are the supposed savings Macrumors commentators have been suggesting Apple doesn't have to pay a single dollar for patents to Qualcomm? In case it still isn't clear. Apple still have to pay Qualcomm for 4G/ 5G wireless patents.
Or May be it is 2025 we can finally say they were wrong. And let the Apple Modem Meme die.
Unless you want to charge it on a MagSafe nightstand and use it as a bedside clock. Like I do.
Everyone is talking about Qualcomm here but who cares besides shareholders?
I want to know what hardware possibilities this unlocks for Apple hardware in more detail. We saw a huge advancement with memory and their CPU. What about the modem? How do 2 Apple devices, both with the modem, benefit when compared to 2 without the modem? Are there any irregularities on their new chip? Hopefully someone with more knowledge than me will get their hands on the chip soon and do a YT video or something
I want to know what hardware possibilities this unlocks for Apple hardware in more detail. We saw a huge advancement with memory and their CPU. What about the modem? How do 2 Apple devices, both with the modem, benefit when compared to 2 without the modem? Are there any irregularities on their new chip? Hopefully someone with more knowledge than me will get their hands on the chip soon and do a YT video or something
It’s 4 hours more actually (of video playing). I get you may not be impressed, but would you want to have your current iPhone to have 4 hours less than it does now? 😉
Regardless of what anyone says, this is actually pretty significant for Apple and the market. Apple is still a relatively new player in silicon design, and what they’ve achieved in that time has been nothing less than astonishing.
Seems unlikely. mmWave is kind of a dead-end technology and Apple have apparantely focused their efforts elsewhere with the C1. They may not ever consider it worthwhile to support mmWave in their modems considering mmWave deployments are so limited globally, and show no signs of momentum. Apple has only ever shipped mmWave in select iPhone models shipped in the US, not any other country.
However, apparantely the normal/Pro iPhones will continue to use Qualcomm modems for now, so thus should continue to support mmWave in the US. Only the 16e and 17 Air are said to be using the C1 this year. We could maybe also see a situation where Apple ships the C1 (C2?) in global iPhone models but continues to use Qualcomm modems in US mmWave models. In the past, Apple has done similar with different baseband modems in different markets.
I’d disagree with this. It has usefulness in large cities which is where it is deployed. I’ve lived in the suburbs in the Midwest and in SF. Both places I am constantly receiving mmWave
Looking forward to the 5G/6G modems being incorporated into Macbook Pros, Macbook Airs and iMacs!
Wait, what? iMacs? Why would the cellular modems be incorporated into a desktop, like the iMacs?
99% of the people won’t care, the other 1% will pretend the other 99% do care, and Apple will fail.
Consumers who don’t care and won’t notice the speed drop (if there is one), because mobile/radio signals are already so chaotic and unpredictable it is impossible to expect a stable, strong signal at any given moment in time and space - in the real world.
Apple and Qualcomm have had a long-term contractual purchase agreement that runs until 2025 at a minimum, with options for it to run through 2027. This was publicly announced by both corporations.
It seems that Apple is taking advantage of the agreement's extension window to roll out its modem.
Apple operates an incremental ship...
16e is about phasing out older tech and having a cheaper iPhone that is just as capable at all the basic functionality. It clearly separates Pro from non-Pro.
It's also the perfect way to segway in new tech, such as C1, without high risk.
I'm still running a 13 Pro and have zero need to replace it. The 16e should easily last 4 to 5 years for the target market.
It took Apple 4 years to produce their first custom CPU designs after buying P.A.Semi. 5 years for a custom modem design after buying up the mess that was Intel’s modem division, is not unreasonable.
Same reason why put WiFi in the iMac G4 or Power Mac G4? At the time... huh? these are not portable...
Then we remember... economies of scale...
Yeah, saw that. But didn’t read the small print, not sure if the video playing is online or not. So decided to use the video streaming figure instead.
Because there are already 5G networks that provide much faster network connectivity compared to what’s available at homes or public WiFi. I would love having cellular on my MacBook Pro so that I am connected no matter where I work from.
I hope my telco offers them on a 24/36 month postpaid plan!
This would help many companies looking for cheap financing when they refleet.