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so instead of adding a more useful telephoto lens they add super wide?...

I know why, to sell the pro supermax version for hundreds more, but still a very consumer hostile move.
 
I like the price. Plus its just 50 Euros more for the next bigger storage option.
 
Dolby Atmos sound? WTF is the point unless it's being output through an Atmos-configured speaker system?
Would Airplay propagate multichannel audio? Even with an Atmos speaker system what would be the point? There's very little content out there with even significant 5.1 surround audio, lest the arcane Atmos channels.
 
**I am confused**

First the previous XR never had Gigabit-class LTE. Yet it says: Faster Gigabit-class LTE.

Secondly, On Apple's website it list the iPhone 11 as Gigabit-class LTE with 2x2 MIMO and LAA.

Isn't one of the key features need for Gigabit LTE is 4x4 MIMO? Perhaps a typo on apples website?
 
Clever marketing to call it iPhone 11 - doesn’t sound so much leaks the cheap version now.

BTW: Samsung A40 costs less than 200, has a smaller bezel, OLED screen and a very small notch...

I would not buy a LCD phone on 2019/2020, especially not at this price point.

What's the point on comparing ONLY the specs where Samsung a40 is better than iPhone 11? such a biased simplistic form of analysing (hating).

What about camera quality, procesor, battery, water resistance level, sofware support (instant updates), build quality, ... FACE ID quality .. speakers .. screen brightness ... etc etc etc.

Tires me.
 
so instead of adding a more useful telephoto lens they add super wide?...

I know why, to sell the pro supermax version for hundreds more, but still a very consumer hostile move.

Yup..................... you nailed it. The more I think about this 11 release more PO'd I get.
 
I'm disappointed they added a wide angle zoom instead of a tele zoom. Sort of clever/devious marketing.
Not only that, but there is no telephoto on the Pro, only normal, wide and ultra-wide.

I just got an ultra-wide lens for my SE as I needed it but there is no way I am going oversized phone. Told the sales girl that her business is about to tank with ultra-wide built in. She had no idea.
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**I am confused**

First the previous XR never had Gigabit-class LTE. Yet it says: Faster Gigabit-class LTE.

Looks like they missed a comma where it was needed.
 
Would Airplay propagate multichannel audio? Even with an Atmos speaker system what would be the point? There's very little content out there with even significant 5.1 surround audio, lest the arcane Atmos channels.

As someone who mixes Atmos movies and TV shows for a living, I can assure you there is a TON of content out there in Atmos. Everything but the smallest budget Netflix shows are all required to deliver Atmos, as is everything on Apple TV+.

That being said, no idea why they'd try to market phone speakers as being Atmos, which is ridiculous...unless they do in fact mean that you can Airplay to an Atmos system, or play in headphones using the Atmos headphone algorithm which is actually decent but nothing like the real thing.
 
I didn’t expect to see so much whining - what the hell did you all expect? They improved it in every single area and dropped the price $50. What do you want from them??
Because they used innovation in the title of their event. So people expected actual innovation. I know, right. All that being said, this is what I actually expected. You can only do so much with a device that fits in your hand. There is only so much innovation Apple can do year after year. Even Apple buys their own hype. People have unrealistic expectations.
 
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Clever marketing to call it iPhone 11 - doesn’t sound so much leaks the cheap version now.

BTW: Samsung A40 costs less than 200, has a smaller bezel, OLED screen and a very small notch...

I would not buy a LCD phone on 2019/2020, especially not at this price point.

I switched from a X with an OLED screen to a XR. OLED is so incredibly overrated while the screen on the XR looks great. As for bezels, I guess people who don't have anything else to talk about go on about bezels. The difference in the bezels is negligible, and if there's one thing more overrated than OLED it's slimmed down bezels.

Anyone who acts like the XR is a cheap phone really truly has no idea what they're talking about. They're just parroting some talking points they heard other people say.
 
This 5G thing is laughable. 5G will not be widely available for 3-4 years. It’s being slowed down because of people throwing fits about safety and more towers needed. My friend is a installer for the mid Atlantic region for Crown Castle. The DC metro area is not going to have full coverage by all providers till 2024. So for now kinda give up on 5G.
 
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So fugly phone
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I am not, will stick with SE. These new phones are 1. Gigantic 2. Fugly
I’m coming from an 8+... I like gigantic. also beauty is in the eye of the beholder, etc.

I wonder if the rumoured little phone will be called 11 mini or SE2.. if it even exists.
 
Second camera is the ultra wide?
Sounds as if they added the less important “arquitectura” camera to the “cheap one”

This sounds reasonable from a selling POV

Every body waiting for the tele camera :D
 
Clever marketing to call it iPhone 11 - doesn’t sound so much leaks the cheap version now.

BTW: Samsung A40 costs less than 200, has a smaller bezel, OLED screen and a very small notch...

I would not buy a LCD phone on 2019/2020, especially not at this price point.


And don’t forget those timely and frequent Samsung software updates. Oh wait never mind. Samsung abandon all their stuff really fast you’ll at best get two years of software updates
 
Price point set to kill competition. Horrible commercial... WTF is up with that screaming song...

camera bump yeah well I actually like this new, ruthlessly functional Apple.

People want a better camera more than they give a F... about a hump. Other than online commenters, nobody really cares one but.

Picture quality - hell yes people care. Everyone cares about that, from the most high end to the most random clueless user, everyone can see pic quality. A bump? Jony Ive hates it, 3 other designers cringe, nobody else cares.
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It should include a purple picture of Tim Apple holding a Polka-dot Dinosaur!! :p
4 of the colors are good, the other 2... I guess Apple's efficient supply chain will make the effect of that really minimal....
 
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