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I love the m1 because it’s performant and the laptops never get hot.

I got an m2 air and it got noticeably hot, fairly quickly too. I immediately returned it and am happy with my m1 pro to this day.

What scares me here is how hot an m2 max will get? If these are getting hot what is the point of Apple silicon?
 
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too bad they are not 3nm...very sad...that means we have to wait now for the 3nm for at least 1 year since i dont see Apple update them in less than 12 months and upset the consumers like they did with the ipad 3
 
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$599 vs $799 Mac mini, same specs but one 256 (one NAND) and other 512 (two NAND). ugh. same this as M2 air situation but worse since same exact CPU
That doesn't matter for 98+% of people. Yes, that percent is made up but there are relatively few people in the world who would care or notice.
 
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Mac mini
-"Support for up to two displays (M2) or three displays (M2 Pro"
-Wi-Fi 6E (802.11ax)
-Bluetooth 5.3
-Two Thunderbolt 4 ports (M2); four Thunderbolt 4 ports (M2 Pro)
 
That doesn't matter for 98+% of people. Yes, that percent is made up but there are relatively few people in the world who would care or notice.

Exactly. And if you do notice the performance difference, you probably want at least 512 Gigs anyway.
 
That doesn't matter for 98+% of people. Yes, that percent is made up but there are relatively few people in the world who would care or notice.

no for sure, but still worth pointing out for those on here who have reservations about this side grade aspect of it.
 
Exactly. And if you do notice the performance difference, you probably want at least 512 Gigs anyway.

yeah it just sucks imo that if you want performance you have to cough up for more GB you wouldn't otherwise need

I dunno, I always understand ram upgrades. but storage ones, for performance reasons, just strikes me odd. especially for $200
 
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lol the M1 MacBook Pro trade in values are abysmal. $1235 for what was the $3499 2021 model. Most of you know though not to trade but to sell.
Yes, the trade-in values are really bad. At various times in the past they've been close enough to selling second-hand to make trading in worth it but Apple easily knocked off hundreds of dollars on trade in values. That's part of their fighting inflation and margins. Keep product prices the same or lower (at least in the U.S.) but reduce trade-in values.
 
Nice little bump, mini might be worth a look but my M1 pro is still far from utilised for my needs to look at replacing it any time soon. Interesting that they are just adding cores for performance than massively beefing up single core performance.
 
Nice little bump, mini might be worth a look but my M1 pro is still far from utilised for my needs to look at replacing it any time soon. Interesting that they are just adding cores for performance than massively beefing up single core performance.

I wonder what that will do to peoples' upgrade cycles. that the M-silicon is so good, that one will wait longer before feeling like getting a new laptop or desktop


whereas Intel CPU's always offered notable benefits one gen over the next, but still lacked this or that wishing for just a bit more.
 
I love the m1 because it’s performant and the laptops never get hot.

I got an m2 air and it got noticeably hot, fairly quickly too. I immediately returned it and am happy with my m1 pro to this day.

What scares me here is how hot an m2 max will get? If these are getting hot what is the point of Apple silicon?
They are at the limit of what they can do with 5nm. Once the M3 series ships with 3nm it won’t run as hot. It is still a lot better than what they could have done with Intel or AMD.
 
I wonder what that will do to peoples' upgrade cycles. that the M-silicon is so good, that one will wait longer before feeling like getting a new laptop or desktop


whereas Intel CPU's always offered notable benefits one gen over the next, but still lacked this or that wishing for just a bit more.
I normally keep my hardware around for a few years 5-7 before its too slow or old for myself but they often go to family members. Unless Apple make the macOS larger and more demanding these computers should be good for a long time. At least until the storage fails as it cant be replaced.
 
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From £2149 in UK. Insane pricing!
RotW is Apple's bi*ch to keep prices attractively affordable in their home territory.
But UK and EU aren't even the worst affected.
In India or Turkey, Apple will probably want a limb and your first-born for a 16" with 4TB SSD and the 96GB RAM upgrade.
 
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A loaded mini can come in handy...

Let's see how far off those October benchmark leaks were... I'm thinking they're a little low... but we won't see a huge jump.
 
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Ridiculous and why does it cost £400 for an extra 16GB memory
They like to make the pricing like a ladder so you look at adding the RAM and it takes you up towards the next model/price bracket, so you think, 'hey, I'll just get that one'.
 
Hmm, I remember Intel of the 2010s with no notable benefits from one generation to the next... and 14nm+++++.

We'll have to see what Apple's "up to 20%" claim translates to.

always was on the pursuit for good battery and thermals iirc, especially the former

until probably around that time too, with unibody MacBook pro's lasting way longer than previous ones the 9 hour claim or whatever. up from standard 4-5??

loved my 12" MB with Core M but slow and got toasty quick and battery life was eh. that was 2015.

2016 NTB, really glad to move up to M1.

from 2016 NTB to 2020 i5 Air, battery life was not significantly better and I think possibly even worse

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bottom line is M-series being fan less for some models, mostly never used for others, and great battery life , it's sorta a 'new era'
 
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