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If I’m not mistaken, according to the tech specs, the new MacBook Pro’s both get an extra hour of movie playback.

Yes, this is the result of the much improved efficiency cores of M2. But under maximum load, the power drain and temperatures could be higher for this 20% extra performance.
 
I normally keep my hardware around for a few years 5-7 before its too slow or old for myself but they often go to family members. Unless Apple make the macOS larger and more demanding these computers should be good for a long time. At least until the storage fails as it cant be replaced.
We've long since passed the point where Mac onboard resources (CPU/GPU) are good enough for most people's needs for about 10 years if not more. Mark my words, Apple will find some way of obsoleting the M1 Macs within the next 5 years to try to make you (and me) upgrade, starting with some sketchy easily-dismissed reason why MacOS 18 can't run on an $6,000 blinged-out M1 Mac Studio Ultra. Then it'll just be a matter of time before MacOS 17 stops receiving updates, and from then on, our machines are worthless.
 
Looks like we can finally put those 3nm rumors to rest! Overall nice update though. It’s the typical spec bump we were all thinking it would be but for anyone not on Apple Silicon already, this is a great starting point……

…… but for those of us who already have an M1 Pro / Max, the M3 series should bring the big upgrades worthy of updating (including 3nm for real this time 😂).

The fact that Apple would launch this new chip via press release rather than waiting a couple more months for their March event just shows March may be committed to VR.
 
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been waiting for so long. genuinely the most exciting Apple purchase I will be making in years—more than any iPhone, any AW, APP2—anything. goodbye to my 2015 Pro, constantly overheating and whirring up like an industrial air conditioner.

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starts at 2,399 EUR now lol ... I wonder how long Apples "we compensate the declining sales by simply increasing the prices to keep our revenue up" is sustainable
They did not raise the price to "compensate for declining sales". They adjusted the price because the Euro is worth less now compared to the US dollar. They have always done that since the 90s and as you know have been wildly successful.
 
The MBPs have supported that for well over a decade. Even back when they had mini DP.
Good joke man, what decade? since the Intel touchbar didnt even had HDMI...and my 16" gen M1 pro/max doesnt support that.
Even Apple own official tech says this
 

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I got an m2 air and it got noticeably hot, fairly quickly too. I immediately returned it and am happy with my m1 pro to this day.
When you say noticeably hot, what do you mean? Are you talking about running a menu bar temperature monitoring app or are you saying you felt heat through the chassis?

If you are talking about a monitoring program, you can't compare the temperatures between the M1 and M2 because the sensors are located in different locations on the SoC, have different names, and are completely undocumented. I wrote my own menu bar temperature monitor and there was no consensus on even what values were CPU temperature sensors.

If you are talking about heat through the chassis then my experience is completely different. I can work all day and I never feel any heat at all. My work is coding mostly in ReactJS which involves some incremental compilation and some docker containers and I don't see any heat issues at all.
 
I just cancelled my order for a 2021 16" MBP M1 Max from Amazon, which was at the $2,999 sale price, and picked up a refurb M1 Pro 32GB for much cheaper. I don't do any video editing or rendering, but wanted the additional memory in case I switch to LR Classic. If there is anything wrong with the refurb, I'll just return it and wait for the newer models to go on sale.
 
I suspect Apple is gonna stagger out the next lithography for the Mac. The M3 might actually end up being a 4 NM chip with the M3 Pro and Max variants also being optimized 4NM released just like the M2 Pro and Max also being optimized 5 NM.
 
Ridiculous and why does it cost £400 for an extra 16GB memory
Apples pricing is crazy. In the USA they keep the prices and in Europe or England they rape their customers.

All the technology products are produced in China.
Don't talk to me about inflation and currencies. Apple is simply greedy. I hope the sales figures really collapse in Europe.

The first sign is probably the price reduction of the Mac Mini:
- M1 from 799 € to...
- M2 from 699 € to...

This would never have happened if the sales figures for the 799 € Mac Mini had developed well.

The new MacBooks Pro have become €150 and €250 more expensive.

I hope people will hold back on buying them. But unfortunately, Apple users are more at the mercy of their addiction than alcoholics.
 
I can't say enough good things about my M1 Pro MBP16. I'm a professional app developer (iOS and Android) and this thing literally blows away my old i9 MBPro in every way. It's literally so good that there is no reason at all for me to consider upgrading to an M2 Pro at this time, but there's also no question in my mind that my next upgrade will be another M-Series Pro (not the Max) because while a full-time video editor might need the Max or Ultra, for the type of work I do, the Pro keeps up with me just fine (a build that used to take 3-4 minutes on my i9 now takes under 30 seconds). I do some video work with After Effects and while I don't personally have renders that take what I consider "too long" I would imagine throwing enough RAM at it would fix that problem. I have 16GB and have zero problems.
 
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Ridiculous and why does it cost £400 for an extra 16GB memory
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GPB to USD is 1.23
You pay 20% VAT in UK. Really crazy.

In the US, the $400 turns into 325 GBP.

In NYC, tax is about 8%, not a usurious 20%. Most states are lower. For example, Delaware is 0%, thus you are paying 20% more taxes than Delaware for the same product. 8% more than expensive NYC.

In the US, the 16GB to 32 increment is $400 or $325 GBP.

But, the 32GB to GB increment, the 32GB is $400 and the 64GB to 96GB increment the 32 GB is another $400.

Thus, from 16GB to 96GB is $1200 for 80GB or $15/GB vs. $25/GB for the first 16GB.
 
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