Ill stick to my 2018 mac mini with 16GB RAM + Sonnet eGPU (Radeon RX 480 8GB). Those two things combined are better than the 2020 ARM model. Also, no bootcamp support with the newer model, so that sucks.
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What we do not know is will they have Intel/AMD driver for Apple Silicon Big Sur or not.Understood. But since (obviously) Big Sur has Intel drivers for eGPU, it just seems weird they'd exclude Apple Silicon drivers from the same OS.
I was thinking they had room for a bigger fan and power supply to really clock up that M1!
I'd bet the the 2020 with 16GB RAM will outperform your 2018 + your particular eGPU setup, in every respect.Ill stick to my 2018 mac mini with 16GB RAM + Sonnet eGPU (Radeon RX 480 8GB). Those two things combined are better than the 2020 ARM model. Also, no bootcamp support with the newer model, so that sucks.
Depending on your line of work / the timing of when you absolutely needed a new computer - then you prob did what you had to do which is fair. Why did you get an iMac Pro though ? (to me its the least flexible / value for dollar / thermal constrained desktop - could be wrong / generalizing here though)
You realize that the options you mention are a laptops a all-in-one and a astronomically more expensive workstation, i.e. a completely different type of computers. The point is the previous model WAS for me, the new one, being crippled memory-wise, no longer is.Then these systems are not for you. This is like complaining about a $200 Dell laptop not having 128GB of RAM when you need it. Get an iMac, Macbook Pro 16", or Mac Pro for that much more RAM. These are the entry level systems.
With 16GB max I'm not ready to use it for a desktop. Probably too many bugs using AS for a media box at this time. So ordered an Air to try things. Same CPU just missing 2 USB ports.
I’m wondering how they’ll deal with that on the Mac Pro line.You realize that the options you mention are laptops, i.e. a completely different type of computers. The point is the previous model WAS for me, the new one, being crippled memory-wise, no longer is.
I foresee dark future for Mac users not in the typical consumer / photography / video editing markets. If Apple decides to put RAM on the SOC for all their product lines, it is clear that only mediocre configurations (RAM-wise) will be available. It's not cheap to manufacture a new version of a chip - with more RAM - for a small market (a small subset of customers of the already small set of customers who prefer Macs to PCs). That is why RAM is normally put into slots, even for the much bigger PC market (even for such a market producing chips with all sizes of memory would not be profitable).
Sad...
May be true on the application code side but lots of what fills up memory today is graphics and video. The AS compression hardware might be more efficient?Actually, I think that is a good sign. Apple SoCs are vastly more efficient than Intel chips and have an entirely different memory architecture. Maybe the M1 chip simply does not need as much RAM to run smoothly. After all, iPhones are the fastest phones in the industry and have much less RAM than Android flagships.
Me too... I am quite skeptical though.I’m wondering how they’ll deal with that on the Mac Pro line.
Apple said it’s up to 3x faster than an i3 quad core 3.6ghz. Converting a 55sec 4k video or something.
Maybe time for real modular MP. Instead of adding memory you add a M1x chip with CPU, GPU, and RAM.I’m wondering how they’ll deal with that on the Mac Pro line.
Yes, I know, but most all comparisons on the Keynote (and in the product page now) are while using Apple apps, which is not a good benchmarks as we should expect that they are very well optimized. I was thinking about more synthetic tests or general usage testsApple said it’s up to 3x faster than an i3 quad core 3.6ghz. Converting a 55sec 4k video or something.
Perhaps. We will find out I guess. Apple isn't stupid so I wouldn't worry too much.May be true on the application code side but lots of what fills up memory today is graphics and video. The AS compression hardware might be more efficient?
I wonder about more cores / threads or multiple chips (is that possible)? This is the first chip so I bet something like a M1X or M1Pro will have more to support "pro" features. This will only continue to evolve just like I've seen Microsoft working on their SQ1 chip.I’m wondering how they’ll deal with that on the Mac Pro line.
Did they? I can't see any price cut???Did Apple say PRICE CUT?!?
Look I sometimes have to manage on 2017 12" MacBook which barely run one instance of VPS Avenger Synth (badly written but great sounding synth) and made full 40 track songs on it. I also have i9 Hackintosh in the studio with 64GB ram only shows what mess x86 architecture is that you think you'll need best computer in the world to make a song.After seeing the whole event, the M1 is way too underpowered for my needs. I guess I‘ll have to wait for next year to go silicon.
I do a lot of audio work, a lot of composing, mixing, recording, etc. And for me the iMac was way too loud and unfortunately underpowered for my needs.
For the instrumental libraries I use, the 10 core iMac Pro was at least enough to work on. I didn‘t want to invest in a Mac Pro now, since an upgrade should be coming next year, and the iMac Pro already has a great screen that comes with the device.
I had a Macbook Pro 16, with the most powerful i9 cpu, 64gb ram, and 8gb 5500m (I don‘t even use the gpu), and it still wasn‘t enough, and I see a huge improvement in Logic Pro while using the 10 core iMac Pro, especially in the number of instruments I can add and use. It was a great investement, just kinda poorly timed.
TeslaImagine a car company releasing the same looking vehicle with just engine changes.
Yeah but the Mac Pro supports up to 1T of RAM.Maybe time for real modular MP. Instead of adding memory you add a M1x chip with CPU, GPU, and RAM.