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Man, they took out 2 of the 4 thunderbolt ports from the previous model? Really?
I know right. I was waiting to see if a mini with new silicon came out. otherwise I was going for an intel 2018 mini with eGPU and ePCI with a Blackmagic Deckling card. that is two thunderbolts and you need them on separate buses (usually two TB ports per bus IIRC). Then there's one or two displays, my TB hub, external RAID. Sure there's two USB4 ports and one HDMI but am I putting my RAID on that or my second display. Also HDMI on my MBP is 8-bit colour but when I use DP I get 10-bit colour depth.

I guess the eGPU might be unnecessary (I do video and live-streaming in mimoLive which really definitely needs eGPUs for complex setups on existing minis and MBPs).

Apple is so stingy with TB ports, even very expensive, fast iMacs only have two TB ports.

Only configurable to 16 GB… I wonder if OWC will have something to say about that! intel Mac mini goes to 64 GB. what is the issue with such limited memory access?
 
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Looks like 16GB is max RAM for the M1 chip, and less 2 thunderbolt ports? Seams like kind of a downgrade from the previous Mini especially compared to the i7 model with 10 Gb Ethernet. That is a huge price discrepancy though from the previous top end to the new one.
 
Yeah sorry, not buying that. I know it;s probably true, but I'm not going to buy it. That will be pretty hard for me to accept quite frankly. Sitting here on my iMac which has 25 GB used and 6 GB free at the moment.
Then you won't need to buy it this year. Wait until next year or in 2 years when Apple has Macs running their processor that will allow for more than 16 GB of RAM.

16 GB of RAM is more than most people need (I say this as someone with 64 GB of RAM in my current computer, 32 in my laptop, and 40 in my iMac), even prosumer or many pro users. Anyone who needs more RAM can wait for the next round.
 
Man, they took out 2 of the 4 thunderbolt ports from the previous model? Really?

I wonder if the SOC lacks the bandwidth for more than 2 TB ports. I also wonder if both can be fully utilized (i.e. use max bandwidth available) simultaneously.

Ill wait for real world testing. Apple marketing events are just painfully vague statements and stats.

Yep. All assertions, no real-world data.
 
I knew they'd include the mini as one of the updated machines! At first I was concerned about how they went from four TB ports to two. But I'm only using two of them on my current mini anyway. It's very tempting to switch, since graphic performance is the Achilles heel of the 2018 mini. I'll wait to find out if it works with eGPUs (since I already have one that works well and it would be nice to reuse it).
 
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Does it matter?
Someone talked about this a few days ago. Basically to not scare off people who don't know or care what's under the hood. When they go to buy a Mac that they want because a friend uses one, they don't want to go the store and not find the one that looks like their friend's Mac.

They used to do the same thing with iPhones. Big internal upgrades came no visible changes.
 
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you don't need a lot of ram on arm, I'm buying that Mac mini
Yeah, thats not true, ARM doesn't have a magical wand for compressing data, yes, iPhone & iPads do alot with the RAM available, but that's down to the hardware/software architecture/integration on those devices, however, if you need to store 32-64GB of data in RAM for ML processing, for WM, for Logic Pro etc etc, thats not magically gonna compress to fit inside 16GB of RAM just because its ARM as you said...16GB is 16GB no matter the architecture

Simply, M1 as it is the first generation obviously have some limitations, 16GB RAM limitation & seems to only include a controller for 2 TB/USB-C
 
You have no idea whether that is a downgrade. This is a complete different chip architecture. No iPad has more than 6 GB RAM.
From Mac Mini perspective, it's like trade off between new chip architecture and feature, so I think it's counted as downgrade.

iPad is out of league...since it not run MacOS...
 
Apple store is back up.

$699 for 256gb and 8gb RAM
$899 for 512GB and 8GB RAM

16GB RAM +$200
 
So no 10 GbE, not even as an option??

Very odd choice to go with 1 GbE only, especially with the old model offering 10 Gig ethernet as an option.
 
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Yes, it’s contained on the SOC.

Bad design IMO. One point of failure = catastrophe. (edit: you will need a whole new computer if anything on the MB fails.) Better hope there is never a manufacturing defect.

I really dislike the “disposable” model of computing Apple is pursuing eg no user upgradeable RAM. Not for the money aspect but just environmentally.

I don't like this "disposable" model of Apple computing on account of both economics and the environment.
 
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