Yeah, almost feels like this is just a way to further kill off the Mac Pro without just discontinuing it altogether. Less capable, less expandable... or maybe once all that AR/VR stuff is out of the gate they'll have something better down the line. The Mac Pro sees updates so seldom as it is, though...
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They did show some PCIe cards on one slide on the keynote no? i could not make out what they were but they did say AUDIO VIDEO expansion...So cryptic.🥲
A Studio with a Thunderbolt 3 PCIe expansion chassis is the exact same thing. This makes no sense. How can they justify this price? It should at least support AMD GPUs and PCIe RAM expansion.
They’re $1000 but 3x faster than the intel machine
That's not why. If it were, then they would only have devoted a few minutes to the introduction of the last version. But they didn't -- they made a big deal about it. What happened here is that they failed to achieve what they planned (extreme version), makng this a disappointment, so they mentioned it only briefly.Because a literal handful of people watching this keynote are actually interested in the Mac Pro as a product they plan to buy. And a fair number of them likely have dedicated Apple sales and technical contacts to ask whatever questions they have about it.
Why do you think an amateur needs more than the Studio Ultra? As soon as you are making money, you are a business, at which point your computer is a tax deduction.
PCIe 4 provides a little more bandwidth, but I don't think it would make enough difference for most use cases.
Huh? All the hardware was very brief. The Mac Pro, Studio, and the 15" Air could have been the entire keynote. They are flying through because of the googles coming up.
This sounds like what happened to me. There were quite a few rumours of the 4x Max chip at one point but nothing seems to have come from it.
No MPX slots means that they are probably not ever planning on supporting third party GPUs even as compute accelerators.
ps, having a business and a tax deduction doesn't make a computer free or less expensive. If you believe that, go to your boss at your dayjob and ask him or her to buy you a 10,000 USD PC instead of a 1,500 USD PC.
Probably the same way they are installed on the Mac Studio - using custom storage modules that are cryptographically locked to the host machine.
It has 2x the RAM as standard and the CPU and GPU is 5-10x(?) faster than the base config they sold you yesterday.
So it’s not like you’re getting absolutely *nothing* for the extra money.
And for the people who needs this it’s a few days of billings and just the cost of doing business.. 🤷♂️
looks to still have sata ports.
why not add an m.2 slot as well?
but why not list the lane configs are they X16 X4 X8 shared with TB bandwidth?
what is the base ram?
is the CPU on an card? or does each cpu / ram config need it's own MB?
storage on cards that can be use changed?
why not add an m.2 slot as well?
but why not list the lane configs are they X16 X4 X8 shared with TB bandwidth?
what is the base ram?
is the CPU on an card? or does each cpu / ram config need it's own MB?
storage on cards that can be use changed?
You know, Apple uses very high quality slots made from the best material available.
ARM is not the dead end you think. Just look at NVIDIA's Grace architecture for reference. Gigabyte showed off the Ampere ARM based servers at Computex ready to deploy in the data center. Supermicro (to name another big name) have their ARM based server solutions as well. So to say ARM was the dead end, is not true.
Also, for those that say 192GB is hilarious, what are you doing to fully completely saturate 192GB of system RAM? Most people don't even fill up 64GB of RAM. Let's see who the primary user base that actually need 1.5TB of RAM are.
If people need 2TB of RAM expansion, go the PC route.
The Mac Studio and Mac Pro, I'd say are geared more for Music studio/Production studios. Not the insane data processing machines we think of in data centers, usually powered by x86 based machines.
Most ML uses GPUs, not CPUs, so the 1.5TB in the old Mac pro wasn't going to be an ML/data training machine.
Now the 192GB ultra boxes, well, those are apparently really interesting to ML people.
Maybe, but I would not plan on ever seeing it. Apple appears to believe that for the use cases they want to address, on-SOC GPU performance is sufficient and therefore PCIe expansion is designed to address non-GPU use cases.
I want to see what the block diagram is. I hope we get a circus trying to get off the SoC's board.