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Apple Updates Boot Camp Drivers to Fix Major Issue Causing Blown Speakers on New MacBook Pros [Updated]

keysofanxiety said:
Couldn't have said it better. Plus MR is becoming more and more divided. It seems you're either in the hater camp or the apologist camp. There's a big grey area where you can rightly criticise mistakes but also really like the products and the good bits. Wouldn't that be perfect.

Unfortunately a lot of anti-Apple arguments are based on emotion and nostalgia. It gets tiresome to read, yet time spent refuting these statements just brands you further as an apologist.
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It's a microcosm of America. There's not a lot of people in he middle anymore and everyone seems to want to fight just to fight. I posted something to social media the other day that was more of a feel good story and before too long, people were fighting on the thread?! America is in a terrible place right now and not looking to get better :(
 
840quadra said:
I am curious as to how many Mac users actuallly install / use Bootcamp regularly . Users on forums and discussion groups are a fringe, so polling places like here wouldn't be a valid sample.

I am just happy they still develop / support Bootcamp and offer fixes like this!
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We're out there and we aren't necessarily techies. We gave one of our 2009 MacBook Pros to the office manager at my daughter's school and set it up to run Windows under Bootcamp for her. She is also a dear friend. She wanted to use Windows at home, since that's what she uses at school. But she needed a nice sturdy good quality machine and in 2013 this laptop of ours was still better than anything new she could have bought for cheap. Indeed, it's still working great for her. The battery is shot but she uses it at her desk anyway.

I still have my 2011 MBP. (Actually it might be a 2012. I can't even remember). I also run Windows under Bootcamp on mine for gaming. I was torn between the MBP and a Windows laptop. Back then all the Windows laptops were crap. Crappy displays, crappy keyboards. Crappy workmanship. Buttons falling off, that sort of thing. I used the MacOS side of it for everything else but gaming and Photo editing programs were Windows based. There were a lot of people doing like I was, on the gaming forums. They were students or housewives like me...even a few grandmas whose grandkids set them up.
 
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LordVic said:
ITS still a non-recoverable hardware failure.

I know if I just spent $3000+ on a brand new computer, and within 1 week, the OEM's own software physically broke the hardware, I'd be very very frustrated. sure, it's not a "priority 1" situation that prevents usage of the device complately. But it's still a high priority item that is impacting the device in a way that I cannot use all functionality that I have paid for.
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This exemplifies why one shouldn't buy a generation 1 device after there is a major architecture change. Wait for gen 2.
 
NY Guitarist said:
Current Apple computers are designed to be disposable. 'Reduce, Reuse, Recycle' has been changed to 'If anything breaks throw it and your money away and buy another one'. The hypocrisy of Apple being 'environmentally conscious' is blatant.



I see this all the time. What type of 'creatives' are you talking about?
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The hearing impaired creatives of course.
 
warsurplus said:
This exemplifies why one shouldn't buy a generation 1 device after there is a major architecture change. Wait for gen 2.
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This is and always was a bogus argument with no actual data to back up the hypothesis. In truth, you're best bet for a particular model is to wait until it's well into the mfg cycle so that any early mfg bugs have been shaken out. Those towards the middle to end of the lifecycle are the best chance to be free from mfg defects.
 
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NY Guitarist said:
Current Apple computers are designed to be disposable. 'Reduce, Reuse, Recycle' has been changed to 'If anything breaks throw it and your money away and buy another one'. The hypocrisy of Apple being 'environmentally conscious' is blatant.
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This is more an issue with iOS devices that can't be downgraded to earlier iOS versions as the later models cause the performance to creak. You don't have that issue with Mac computers as they are usable until they're not. You can downgrade the OS easily so the performance is equivalent to the day they were new. The big issue is that you simply don't have a guarantee that the OS of today will work on machines older than 5 years. That doesn't stop us from keeping those computers running though as they're still usable. Unlike iOS devices.
 
So, did I read that right? Integration at it's 'best' - broken speaker = replace entire laptop?
This will bode well in the future once warranty/AC expires..
 
dannys1 said:
You're all mocking Apple, but its Realtek who makes the Windows drivers - and only in Windows could a faulty driver cause your speakers to receive speaker blowing spikes.,
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That little /s there indicates "end of sarcasm" you'd do well to learn that if replying to things on tech forums.
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Naturally. It's never Apples fault.
 
dogslobber said:
This is and always was a bogus argument with no actual data to back up the hypothesis. In truth, you're best bet for a particular model is to wait until it's well into the mfg cycle so that any early mfg bugs have been shaken out. Those towards the middle to end of the lifecycle are the best chance to be free from mfg defects.
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I amend my statement to gen 1.5
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Marconelly said:
I have not heard of an instance where the software could physically damage the hardware since I think early DOS days. I wonder if the fix for this was to just make the maximum sound output much lower than before. This whole issue is kind of worrying tbh. I'd think there should always be some hardware gate in place that would prevent things like this, no matter what the software is trying to do.
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Stuxnet
 
Colonel Blimp said:
Because drivers are software that drive hardware, and in this case (regardless of whatever may be usual), a driver has been causing hardware to act funny (where by "act funny" we mean, in this case, "physically break").
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The hardware is in itself defective.
The driver is a workaround, but that's just gluing the knob on your stereo and calling it "a fix".

Also, "Microsoft gave its approval" means "Microsoft has checked the driver doesn't crash your computer and stuff works as intended", not "the hardware can't be brought to fail".

I'm sorry, but no, you cannot blame Microsoft for this.

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GrumpyMom said:
I still have my 2011 MBP. (Actually it might be a 2012. I can't even remember). I also run Windows under Bootcamp on mine for gaming. I was torn between the MBP and a Windows laptop. Back then all the Windows laptops were crap. Crappy displays, crappy keyboards. Crappy workmanship. Buttons falling off, that sort of thing.
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In the 2000s Apple hardware was superior to the average laptop, but I don't think I've ever heard of keys falling off on IBM laptops... :)
 
dannys1 said:
You're all mocking Apple, but its Realtek who makes the Windows drivers - and only in Windows could a faulty driver cause your speakers to receive speaker blowing spikes.,
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That little /s there indicates "end of sarcasm" you'd do well to learn that if replying to things on tech forums.
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Apple writes those drivers, not Realtek. You don't even know what you're talking about.
 
Absolutely laughable that speakers can be blown using the internal amp. I start to believe that Apple has completely outsourced hardware development to Foxconn. And maybe the design, too. Ive just sends a picture of an old MBP with the instructions: "Make it thinner!". And Schiller completes the guidelines with: 16 GByte of RAM is enough and Professionals wants a headphone jack, too - unfortunately he forgot (or rather he didn't know) about the digital optical output.
 
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villicodelirant said:
The hardware is in itself defective.
The driver is a workaround, but that's just gluing the knob on your stereo and calling it "a fix".

Also, "Microsoft gave its approval" means "Microsoft has checked the driver doesn't crash your computer and stuff works as intended", not "the hardware can't be brought to fail".

I'm sorry, but no, you cannot blame Microsoft for this.

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In the 2000s Apple hardware was superior to the average laptop, but I don't think I've ever heard of keys falling off on IBM laptops... :)
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Alienware. At least the one I was looking at in Microcenter.
 
Anyone knows what the Bootcamp version numer is which has the fix?

I am on a 13" none TB and my version is 6.1 and it doesnt find any updates.
 
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