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Apple this week released an update for Boot Camp, its solution for running Windows on Intel-based Macs, to support the newly-launched Studio Display.

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Boot Camp Update 6.1.17, released to the public earlier this week, adds support for the Studio Display and updates drivers for AMD and Intel GPUs. To update to the latest Boot Camp drivers, users need to navigate to the Start menu in Windows and open the Apple Software Update app.

When connected to any Windows system, the Studio Display's Center Stage, True Tone, and Spatial Audio functionality will be unavailable, as will any features that require firmware updates. The webcam, speakers, and USB-C ports will continue to function, but much like the Pro Display XDR, the Studio Display works best with macOS.

Macs powered by ‌Apple silicon do not officially support Windows and there is no Boot Camp feature like there is on Intel Macs, meaning that the update will only benefit the minority of users who have purchased the new Studio Display but have an older, non-Apple silicon based system with Boot Camp set up. Microsoft has declined to make a version of Windows 11 available for Apple's M1 series of Macs that are built on an Arm architecture, potentially due to an exclusivity deal with Qualcomm.

Article Link: Apple Updates Boot Camp to Support Studio Display
 
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ruka.snow

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I wonder how long Apple will support Boot Camp after the AS migration?

I mean, it’s nice they’re doing this, but it has an expiration date
I expect it’ll be until the machines are end of life. 2025 would be a reasonable 7 years for something like the Mac Pro.
 
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When connected to any Windows system, the Studio Display's Center Stage, True Tone, and Spatial Audio functionality will be unavailable, as will any features that require firmware updates. The webcam, speakers, and USB-C ports will continue to function, but much like the Pro Display XDR, the Studio Display works best with macOS.

So what does Boot Camp actually do here? Better webcam drivers?
 

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This is why I am keeping my 12 yr. old 24 in. Cinema Display (just fixed it by replacing the LCD last week for $120 - in hindsight, completely worth it vs $1599 for new Studio display that has 90% the same functionality). Works great on Boot Camp/Windows and MacOS. Plus, it was designed in the era when it had engineering/product development oversight from Steve Jobs. Hope it lasts the next decade. إن شاء الله مَا شَاءَ ٱللَّٰهُ
 

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This is why I am keeping my 12 yr. old 24 in. Cinema Display (just fixed it by replacing the LCD last week for $120 - in hindsight, completely worth it vs $1599 for new Studio display that has 90% the same functionality). Works great on Boot Camp/Windows and MacOS. Plus, it was designed in the era when it had engineering/product development oversight from Steve Jobs. Hope it lasts the next decade. إن شاء الله مَا شَاءَ ٱللَّٰهُ

I have one of these which I love. Are you able to control the brightness in Monterey? It’s greyed out for me.

I would expect Apple to support Bootcamp until Windows 10 reaches EOL, so 2025 IIRC.
 
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Isentropic

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I have one of these which I love. Are you able to control the brightness in Monterey? It’s greyed out for me.

I would expect Apple to support the Bootcamp until Windows 10 reaches EOL, so 2025 IIRC.
Good question. Honestly, I haven't upgraded to Monterey and still using Catalina, especially since I am always afraid of some new bug or loss of functionality. I have full control of all the display's functions on Catalina! It seems it was a good idea to not upgrade. You may try this app on MacOS called "MonitorControl", which allows changing brightness manually also. Hope this helps!

MonitorControl - GitHubhttps://github.com › MonitorControl › MonitorControl
 

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I hate that Apple mocks me by still including the BootCamp app on my M1 machine, and even crafting a nice compatibility error at launch. Thanks!
Maybe they intend on re-enabling it once Windows on ARM is available? The rumor is that it is not currently because of some exclusivity deal with Qualcomm that will expire soon.
 
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Maybe they intend on re-enabling it once Windows on ARM is available? The rumor is that it is not currently because of some exclusivity deal with Qualcomm that will expire soon.

When Apple announced Apple Silicon they mentioned the usage figures for Bootcamp had fallen dramatically over the years. My guess is there just isn't enough demand to warrant the effort.

On the Microsoft side I suspect they would rather you subscribe to an Azure virtual desktop.
 
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I wonder what the updated drivers actually do? I would imagine Windows just sees it as a generic usb hub with a webcam and sound card. Maybe it just updates the device names in Device Manager..?
 

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I suspect that as Windows on Arm improves, we may see BootCamp on M series, at the very least I think it makes a VM a reasonable prospect. Ultimately it really depends on how much MS pushes Arm based computers.
 
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I suspect Apple will release a Windows driver for the Studio Display at some point. Such a driver almost certainly wouldn't add Center Stage and other advanced features, but would enable brightness control and perhaps some webcam control.
 

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As soon as Microsoft starts supporting their Windows for ARM on third-party computers, Apple will bring Boot Camp to M1. It's a matter of time. Microsoft can't ignore the recent progress in the ARM architecture, and third-party (non-Apple / non-Microsoft) ARM-based PCs are coming soon.
 
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When Apple announced Apple Silicon they mentioned the usage figures for Bootcamp had fallen dramatically over the years. My guess is there just isn't enough demand to warrant the effort.

On the Microsoft side I suspect they would rather you subscribe to an Azure virtual desktop.

Exactly this. When BootCamp was released, it seemed like Windows would be around forever and would have to coexist with macOS because of the overwhelming number of workplace apps and workflows that were customized for Windows and would never have macOS versions.

The world has since shifted to cloud apps that work in a browser — including on a Mac. Microsoft itself has been pivoting to cloud computing and many of their most important apps, including the Office suite have macOS versions that work cross platform.

When I began at the startup I’m working at, I consolidated our systems into GSuite (now Google Workspace) and everyone works on their own Macs, PCs and phones and it all just works. None of our Mac users need Windows and none of our PC users need macOS. Everyone just needs a browser and an internet connection and we’re all highly productive in our workflows.

There may still be a remnant of dinosaur IT departments who haven’t updated their infrastructure to more modern cloud computing but they’ve become a small minority as seen in the dwindling demand for BootCamp. I guess there‘s still a demand for Windows for gamers who own a Mac but that too is shifting to the cloud.
 
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