It really is still necessary to do those things in feature film post-production. There are many departments (editorial, sound, VFX, DI) that work together to finish a film. EDLs may be "old" but they still work and are incredibly small and simple files to deal with. Everyone's workflow is different and equally valid.
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Apple Updates Final Cut Pro X, Motion, and Compressor Alongside New Pro Marketing Push
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It really is still necessary to do those things in feature film post-production. There are many departments (editorial, sound, VFX, DI) that work together to finish a film. EDLs may be "old" but they still work and are incredibly small and simple files to deal with. Everyone's workflow is different and equally valid.
I'm putting this quote up in every Final Cut Pro X thread from here on. ;-)
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Not my experience at all. Just highlight everything in the list, find one item, and rest sync.
You can drag directly from the finder into either the timeline or the event browser. You don't have to import through that dialogue box.
Final Cut Pro X updates are most welcome. These 6 things are the most important to me though.
I was hoping for:
1) Right click clip to Lock clip (Prevents delete, overwrite, nudging, magic move sorcery)
2) Right click clip to Remove Connection, and pin in place!!!!
3) A native send clip to (*Event Browser, Motion, or any app exchange round-trip feature)
*I shouldn't have to:
a) Reveal in event Browser, and then Create a New Compound Clip in Event Browser.
b) Go through the process of exporting, and then importing.
4) Option in the Event Browser: Reveal in Timeline/Storyline
5) Some sort of Master Attributes List Window (To manage Effects,Transitions,or whatever) // I'll assume this one would be for a point release
6) Option in the Event Library: Only Show Events Associated with this Project (To hide it from clients who don't need to see what else I'm working on.)
Current work around involves a separate drive for each client. Could get costly. Perhaps better folder management is all Apple needs? They can already do: HD/Event/Folder/. Why not give us HD/Folder/Event/Folder/
I was hoping for:
1) Right click clip to Lock clip (Prevents delete, overwrite, nudging, magic move sorcery)
2) Right click clip to Remove Connection, and pin in place!!!!
3) A native send clip to (*Event Browser, Motion, or any app exchange round-trip feature)
*I shouldn't have to:
a) Reveal in event Browser, and then Create a New Compound Clip in Event Browser.
b) Go through the process of exporting, and then importing.
4) Option in the Event Browser: Reveal in Timeline/Storyline
5) Some sort of Master Attributes List Window (To manage Effects,Transitions,or whatever) // I'll assume this one would be for a point release
6) Option in the Event Library: Only Show Events Associated with this Project (To hide it from clients who don't need to see what else I'm working on.)
Current work around involves a separate drive for each client. Could get costly. Perhaps better folder management is all Apple needs? They can already do: HD/Event/Folder/. Why not give us HD/Folder/Event/Folder/
Yeah, they're all about Pro apps.
You aren't REALLY basing progress off the decimal places are you?
I think we're looking at the iPad Pro here, people. Why else would Apple care about professional apps?
A 12 inch screen, and Octa-core processor. It'll take any creative challenges that you through at it. As long as you can meet those challenges with the new iMovie Pro and iMotion
With over 12 professionally designed templates, being a creative professional has never been so easy.
A 12 inch screen, and Octa-core processor. It'll take any creative challenges that you through at it. As long as you can meet those challenges with the new iMovie Pro and iMotion
With over 12 professionally designed templates, being a creative professional has never been so easy.
Not as limited as the above might indicate. The events are not necessarily the media files. (this is covered in scenario 2 in the whitepaper). The events can reference indirectly the original media files. The events and projects essentially wrap metadata and FCPX specific data (or specially transcoded files) around the media.
Nor do individual events have to be extremely broad scoped.
One one person at a time can edit (mutate this FCPX specific data), but multiple folks could have access to the underlying files ( e.g., stock or common library footage.).
This isn't necessarily a "fix" but an extended functionality issue. FCPX keeps a database on the data associated with the project. In order for multiple people to open and concurrently mutate that data that would have to be a multi-user data with locking and mechanisms to flush/resynchronize data that gets changed under one of the users by the other.
It likely would be better to get a more flushed out FCPX out the door and working with a relatively low number of defects before moving onto something more complicated. (or sitcking some kind of "read only" mode in so that someone could fork/share a copy while another person mutated. )
FCPX isn't going to do the "hand offs" between users for them. You'd need a integrating team/file management program/application/mix-in-extension to do that. But there are several different methodologies those could follow. In a more "integrating tools " Unix like fashion that sort of methodology can be just layered on top. Folks may want a mega tool that does everything, but the path to high quality software is through incremental refinement of highly tested and working software. A smaller system is incrementally made into a bigger (broader) system over time; not in some "big bang" release process.
As if companies are hiring 'professionals' to download templates in-house and typing in text and importing photos from their iPhones...
I love FCPX's performance, but I detest the layout. I really wish we had the ability to freely move clips in the timeline without the need for them to always be "attached" to another clip. I miss having tracks and being able to adjust my clips properly. I miss being able to create subclips and the organization that FCP7 allowed. I try to use FCPX, but with every update they make it harder and harder for me not to switch to Premiere or Avid.
Tell "Windows people" to install K-Lite Mega Codec Pack or VLC, they play everything.
No need for QuickTime player.
Yeah, no kidding. Show me only the events being used in this project. The workaround for this, but requires hard drive space, is to duplicate the project with the 'including referenced events' option.
I agree with most of the things on your list you should check out this app that manages all your events (hides them from event browser and doesnt' load them and it even shows you your offline events on other archive drives) It's not bad for 5 bucks!
I switched to Premiere when FCP X came out, after I lost hours of work repeatedly due to crashes, and no way to save, and never looked back. Did they ever fix the issue where there is no save button in the File menu at all, and no way to save whatsoever, other than leave FCP X open for an hour for AutoSave to do it automatically, which is retarded?
I'm sure FCP X will be good one day but I can't imagine it doing everything that Premiere does. Sure, the interface is pretty, but it's slow as hell.
The complicated "Events" way to organize files is just horrendous too, and it forces you to create a whole new structure for everything, even if you just want to try out an effect and the discard it. It gets so confusing.
Background rendering is also a horrible idea, as it slows down the computer and you have no way to know what the hell is going on. In Premiere, there is NO need for rendering at all to play your timeline, which means there's no background slowness or anything like that, it just works, instantly.
I'm sure FCP X will be good one day but I can't imagine it doing everything that Premiere does. Sure, the interface is pretty, but it's slow as hell.
The complicated "Events" way to organize files is just horrendous too, and it forces you to create a whole new structure for everything, even if you just want to try out an effect and the discard it. It gets so confusing.
Background rendering is also a horrible idea, as it slows down the computer and you have no way to know what the hell is going on. In Premiere, there is NO need for rendering at all to play your timeline, which means there's no background slowness or anything like that, it just works, instantly.
What's the point? I thought everyone already abondoned FCPX?
well even if they have they can now get a refund for it from what I understand.
You can shut it off and get the same behavior you describe from Premiere for the most part. The only catch is longer exports. (But I'm OK with that as I've never liked the idea of using preview renders as part of my export. Some sort of glitch always shows up as a result.)
I timed exporting (sharing) native h.264 (not rendered media from 5D) from FCP X and exporting ProRes "rendered" media and there was no difference.
The only difference, on my system, is the ProRes rendered media in the timeline skims with more responsiveness. That was the only difference I got on my system. So I turn it off and then manually render transitions, generators, etc.
Yeah, but the point is, if you use Premiere you don't need a translator program at all. You don't even have to close Premiere- just highlight a group of clips and choose "New After Effects Composition" and you're there.
Baryon, I stopped reading after I saw this
Dude, you've got to be kidding me right? Either you're a greenhorn or just not the brightest bulb. NO ONE in their right mind w/ money on the line would use FCPX for $$ making projects when it first came out. No one ever uses a 1.0 for the $$ making. Plus this was a complete from ground up build. It is a drastic change from my personal opinion old archaic way of editing. Lets not get started on the save... dude, it saves automatically instantly as you work, get used to it. Apparently you don't like to read and were having a convulsion reaction to not even taking your time to learn your way around or read ANY of the material out there. Just wow.
Dude, you've got to be kidding me right? Either you're a greenhorn or just not the brightest bulb. NO ONE in their right mind w/ money on the line would use FCPX for $$ making projects when it first came out. No one ever uses a 1.0 for the $$ making. Plus this was a complete from ground up build. It is a drastic change from my personal opinion old archaic way of editing. Lets not get started on the save... dude, it saves automatically instantly as you work, get used to it. Apparently you don't like to read and were having a convulsion reaction to not even taking your time to learn your way around or read ANY of the material out there. Just wow.
Nice Apple!
Hopefully this is a first sign of pro hardware coming soon. Mac Pro and ACD displays, PLEASE!!!!!
Hopefully this is a first sign of pro hardware coming soon. Mac Pro and ACD displays, PLEASE!!!!!
Umm yeah, it is all very necessary. I really have no clue what's going in the rest of the country and how people approach a lot of these issues. But in "Hollywood" yeah EDLs are an integral part of all turn overs. Whether its a dialogue edl for sound, a picture edl for assembly and color, or even an edl to generate a list of music for the music editor. "Hollywood" is not one stop shopping, we need to be able to share media across multiple workstations, manage media, have a simple quick way to share our picture edits and temp sound with color/sound houses. And if you want to talk about people "stuck" in the old ways. These are the people who request these items, its not like any picture editor is saying I need to work on this software so I can do an EDL, its the houses we deal with who have these requirements. And anyone who spends any serious amount of time with Avid Media Composer in a professional environment is not going to start working with FCP-X and go wow this is the bee's knees there is a lot of stuff Avid just does right and you don't have to think about it. Just adding visible timecode in FCP7 to match sequence time was a cumbersome deal. I realize this is a mac site and people go giddy over apple products and swear up and down their's the greatest thing. But in real world situations FCP-X just doesn't stand up to software solutions that already exist.
I will say being able to view Log-C ProRes in Rec709 is the coolest thing I've seen in a while and look forward to Avid copying this feature. Be a huge time saver for many Alexa work flows.
