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Blu-Ray burning is not authoring. They just give you a way to burn an HD(Blu-Ray) encoded video to disc with a menu for small collaborations between people. Just like Adobe's Encore, there is not going to be a sub-$25K BD authoring system for a while, until Sony drops the royalty fees. I own a DVD/Blu-Ray authoring company and we use Sonic's Scenarist software for BD authoring and it costs $25-$30K for the software license. This is due to the expensive royalties needed for adding the AACS files to discs for replication purposes. Once that price goes down, then I am sure Apple will add this to DVD Studio Pro. Not before. Not worth the R&D and ROI right now, especially for consumer/prosumer level software like FCP Studio.

The license issue is with AACS, required for replicated BD but not for BD-R(W). If one is authoring BD for replication, that fee must be paid; for BD-R, no fee is needed, which is what allows Toast and the new FCS to burn BD-R.

It sure would be nice for Apple to a least fix DVD SP to allow the menus created with the extant system for DVD to be converted to BD-R menus. No, that doesn't live up to the full potential of BD, but it's a "northward" move for us serious hobbyists.

I suspect the other issue with provided full BD menu design software, is that BD menu creation, the Java, et al, is an order of magnitude more complex in design than BD. Apple is no doubt trying to design a system that allows access to more features, but still keep it wysiwyg and fairly simple.

For pros authorize serious contents for replication, access to a more complete set of BD features is needed. I think the licensing should be handled like mpeg-2 decoding in Quicktime: you pay extra for a special key that unlocks the ability to write the AACS files. The price of that license is determined by Sony et al, not by Apple. But at least one could get it.

The question for Apple is whether or not it is worth the investment: will serious professionals use DVD/BD Studio vx to author BD for replication, and if so, are there enough of them to justify the software design and implementation expense?

BD Playback: licensing is not a serious issue: BD hardware players (set top, Playstation, etc.) are not that expensive any more, and the add-ons you must buy to play BD on Windoze are cheap enough.

Eddie O
 
Here is my guess about 64-bit and Open CL support (i.e. Snow Leopard or Mac OS X 10.6), it will NOT be in this release. In fact, I'd guess that those features will be in the NEXT major update (Final Cut Pro v8, FCS4?) and will require another upgrade in about one year (hopefully prior to 10.7).

I suspect that the reason they released this new version prior to Snow Leopard is just to get it over with BEFORE they release Snow Leopard. Sure it will look bad when Snow Leopard ships with FCP7 still 32-bit and not supporting Open CL, but imagine how bad it would have looked if they released FCP7 AFTER Snow Leopard but without any real support for the new Snow Leopard features. Thus, they had to release it now or never. Besides I expect that the update to support 64-bit and Open CL will be MASIVE and I'm pretty certain that will take another year or more to be done. In any case, $299 for the upgrade is pretty decent and probably another tip-off that this update won't include support for Snow Leopard's new features.

Interestingly, someone on another website said they called FC7 technical support and Apple told him that this release DID support 64-bit and Open CL. Further, this user claimed that 64-bit support was listed in the "General" section on Apple's FCS website. However, I can find no reference to such support anywhere on the new FCS website. Thus, I think either Apple's technical support is wrong or that this user was just spreading rumors (i.e. messing with everyone).

I'd like to be proven wrong, but we'll just have to wait and see.
 
This is a nice update. I think the best feature is the background exporting. I have to export so many clips, this will save me a ton of time. Bigger Timecode window is also a welcome addition. We'll see how the new media management is. Also nice to see more ProRes codecs.

I am sad to see no AVCHD native support, as well as XDCAM (MPEG-IMX). Blu-ray authoring would have been nice, but I think it will be coming. It's not a big deal since I don't need any fancy menus anyway. I don't know who is bitching about sending client Blu-rays and how they must have it authored through DVD Studio. Make a simple menu through Toast and you're done.
I'm glad they kept STP at 5.1 mixing. 7.1 is crap and unnecessary.

This is a decent update, and nice at $299.
 
End of the road for PPC:

Minimum System Requirements to Install All Applications

Mac computer with an Intel processor
1GB of RAM (2GB of RAM recommended for working with compressed HD and uncompressed SD sources; 4GB of RAM recommended for working with uncompressed HD sources)
ATI or NVIDIA graphics processor (integrated Intel graphics processors not supported)
128MB of VRAM
Display with 1280-by-800 resolution or higher
Mac OS X v10.5.6 or later
QuickTime 7.6 or later
DVD drive for installation


I don't see an academic discount for FCS 4.... I guess $999 is the only price available?

Which sucks my G5 is still a capable computer.
 
I am sad to see no AVCHD native support, as well as XDCAM (MPEG-IMX).

You'll probably never see it have native support, since these are both delivery formats, not editing formats. There's just too much processing overhead on these codecs to even try and make it native. Processing raw data (or near raw) is always faster than processing compressed data.
 
The education store pricing actually jumped up by $200. WTF is that? Are universities somehow recession proof? I thought they wanted students to be learning on this platform? Isn't that the point of producing a low-cost Avid alternative?

Actually, Edu pricing went down from $399 to $249 per seat, at least on an order of 20.

It looks like Apple is revising actual university pricing downward, which they can verify, while increasing Edu pricing that's open to anyone (i.e. online store with no verification), because people can and will lie.
 
A review on FCP7 over on MacWorld says the following:

"While Apple states that there will be performance benefits from running Snow Leopard with Final Cut Pro 7, no new features are enabled by running it."

This sounds to me like 64-bit and Open CL support aren't in this release which seems to confirm my earlier comments and also puts a lie on that "report" from FCP7 technical support (a post from a user on AppleInsider reported that Apple technical support had told him that 64-bit and Open CL were supported in FCP7 -- which now seems to NOT be true).
 
You'll probably never see it have native support, since these are both delivery formats, not editing formats. There's just too much processing overhead on these codecs to even try and make it native. Processing raw data (or near raw) is always faster than processing compressed data.

That's actually not even close to true. FCP can edit MPEG-IMX files just fine, but they have to be re-wrapped in a quicktime container via Sony's XDCAM Transfer software. There are plenty of plug-ins that allow native editing of this specific flavor of XDCAM, but they are around $1,000.

As for AVCHD, there are several editing packages that already edit this natively. Premiere Elements. I can understand no native AVCHD support because it's not a professional codec anyway. But still would be nice, and FCP can CERTAINLY handle it.

I realize that none of these are typical editing formats, but unfortunately, that is the current reality.
 
STILL no update to DVD Studio Pro? Damn. Apple really needs to again start focusing on their applications and computer line. Every year they fall farther and farther behind.
 
A review on FCP7 over on MacWorld says the following:

"While Apple states that there will be performance benefits from running Snow Leopard with Final Cut Pro 7, no new features are enabled by running it."

This sounds to me like 64-bit and Open CL support aren't in this release which seems to confirm my earlier comments and also puts a lie on that "report" from FCP7 technical support (a post from a user on AppleInsider reported that Apple technical support had told him that 64-bit and Open CL were supported in FCP7 -- which now seems to NOT be true).

that's really upsetting that they would release this "major" suite update so close to the release of Snow Leopard and not fully integrate the two technologies.

HOWEVER— FCS3 does have some speed-increasing features and if Snow Leopard is as good an upgrade as Apple is saying it is... the two should compliment one another just fine. I think FCS is pretty snappy to begin with... so I'm not one to complain.
 
that's really upsetting that they would release this "major" suite update so close to the release of Snow Leopard and not fully integrate the two technologies.

How do you know if this is true?

I've written software that looks it it's run time environment and uses services if available and if not just disables a feature. This lets one version of the program run on multiple OS versions.

For all we know this version of Logic and FCP could be as preparatin for Snow Leopard.

But my gues and that is all we can do is guess is that Logic FCP and snow Leopard are all on independent release schedules and the guys working on Logic don't talk the the guys working on Snow Leoard and the only thing they know about Sn is what they see in the beta developer previews just like everyone else.

Software development schedules tend to be very hard to predict. Thinks happen and you just can't get a good estimate for how long it will take. Engineers by definition build things that have never been built before. So it is hard to know how long it will take. So I'm guessing that SN, Logic and FCP development is not synchronized
 
STILL no update to DVD Studio Pro? Damn. Apple really needs to again start focusing on their applications and computer line. Every year they fall farther and farther behind.

I'm feelin' the same way.
Even if they weren't going to allow Blu-Ray authoring in DVD studio, there's still so much they could do with it, to enhance it's abilities and such.
 
I am totally disappointed and let down by the Logic update. Being an electronic music producer I don't begrudge guitar / band producers but the total focus on this area in the new update has been an unbelievable letdown. I have used macs for music since 1993 starting with cubasis and moving to logic which I have championed ever since. Sadly cubase here I come.... it has a bitter taste but for electronic music it is now a better option. Again I am totally gutted by this move.

What did you really expect, though? The new time stretch engine looks up to par with everything else out there, and with a nice gui to boot. The new bounce features is geared mainly towards users who run cpu intensive plugs and instruments, etc etc, and 'guitar' effects tend to be very useful indeed for all kinds of instrumtens and tracks, especially to liven up loops and synths... Did you expect more synths or samplers? Logic's already tricked out in that department IMO.

Anyways, way to go apple. This Logic update is pretty much what the community has been asking for, plus minus a few things. Hope the bugs have been taken care of though. :)

edit: oh, and track importing too. No reason to go with PT anymore for me.
 
Apple silently updated Final Cut Studio

"Silently" says it all. If Apple feels embarrassed, they should. This is all we get after waiting 3 years? What happened, Apple? Did you steal all your employees for your consumer products and leave skeleton crews for your pro apps?

I'm sorry, but all these new features, except perhaps the Prores update, feel like small work-around plug-ins, nothing near a full update. I expect better. I'm thoroughly disappointed.

Weak.
 
It is stupid that they left out Aperture.

Have any major upgrades of Final Cut Studio and Aperture ever been released on the same date?

I don't see any overlap in historical release dates, according to Wikipedia's release date history, and certainly don't remember them ever coming out around the same time.

On the other hand, FCS has been updated at NAB every time, and Aperture has generally released around Spring or Fall photo equipment shows, so with FCS being released on a random Thursday I can see the line of thought that would expect Aperture to follow suite.

Given the historical release schedules, though, the lack of an Aperture 3 today says nothing about Apple's commitment to upgrading Aperture this year. I'd just expect it closer to September (1.5 years between major releases last time, and coincides with photo shows).
 
No Pages update? :rolleyes:

Pages is not a creative professional app. All pro apps were updated today other than Aperture. Which is a little lame. I'm hoping that Aperture comes out after Snow Leopard, is full 64bit and has a plugin architecture similar to Adobe Light Room along with the current set up.
 
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