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The new Mac Pro is coming later this year, as confirmed. I don't know what a "30-bit" display is so perhaps enlighten me?
The new USB ports are on the back of this new iMac.
USB 3.2? Where?
USB 3.1 is 6-year old news.
30-bit display = 10-bit per channel (bpc) which amounts to more than a billion colors in total.
When and where has the Mac Pro been officially confirmed?
 
What don't you get? Do you really think the average consumer cares or can tell the difference between 5400, 7200, Fusion, and SSD?
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There will never be another SE.
We can all dream...The management needs to squeeze out more sales
 
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Negative comments, how shocking.

In case you missed it in the article, these are updated iMacs, not new iMac models.


I was going to comment on the milking the same design for ages & the chin ..... until I was aware of "update".
Some of us MR members sometimes pounce too early for the kill like a pack of hyenas ..... ah well...maybe next time.

But where is the 31inch model? Jeez.... still at 27 inches ...Zzzzzz...

After the NMP and new monitors I guess....
 
The average customer absolutely knows that their computer is way too slow when it comes with a 5400 rpm drive. I support a few people that have them and the experience using these computers is terrible.
I have the 2017 iMac with fusion drive. Mac OS X runs wonderfully, but in windows 10 since it can't use ssd it is slow.
 
Upon further reflection on Apples latest models. I am glad they did not add a T2 chip. I don't want a T2 chip in a desktop. I can perhaps understand the security on a laptop, but don't encrypt my hard drive on a desktop unless I want you to. Over and out.
 
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Pretty sure almost everyone can tell the difference between SSD and HDD at least on booting up.

The major difference is during boot. HDD are really slow, but if you power on the iMac only once a day, or maybe a week (end put it in sleep mode during the week) you can still live with an HDD. The point is iMac aren't cheap at all, so at least a Fusion Drive on all models would be good. The base 21.5'' 4K comes with an HDD, and that sucks...
 
USB 3.2? Where?
USB 3.1 is 6-year old news.
30-bit display = 10-bit per channel (bpc) which amounts to more than a billion colors in total.
When and where has the Mac Pro been officially confirmed?

A new Mac Pro was confirmed by Apple last year.. I bet we will see it at WWDC in a few months.
 
So only i5 or i9? Also still running the fusion drive and a base of 8GB of RAM. A decent bump just for the 6-core CPUs, but a bit disappointing in terms of config options.

I do like these day-apart announcements. Hoping for a 12" macbook update tomorrow...
 
Great move by Apple - focusing only on essentials. No T2, no space grey, and no new design, as a result, much better hardware without price hike!
Yes. But people were hoping for a bezzeless iMac, a complete redesign. ZOT made some concept renders a few months back.
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Interesting Apple are now offering i3 options - any reason in particular they never used to (premium image)? Never really gave it a thought before. Not that disappointed fusion drives remain, though maybe they could have offered a stock option with SSD.
For the educational market I suppose.
 
The base retina 4K model does for me, the £1,249 model ("3.6GHz quad-core 8th-generation Intel Core i3 processor") I'm not complaining if it helps keep the costs down, just wondering why they traditionally only ever offered i5 and i7...


So literally just because before now they didn't offer enough power to be 'worth it'?
Basically. i3s were only 2 cores before the 8th gen. On top of the additional cores, 8th gen i3 are much faster. I know the old 21.5" iMac had (still has) a 2 core i5 (people shouldn't buy this non-Retina iMac). That was a bottleneck in performance. Now the base model with an i3 is great. Coffee Lake was by many accounts the biggest performance upgrade in Intel processors (relative to a previous generation) in about 10 years.
 
Dang... after there was no iMac in October and it got into January, I was absolutely convinced that the next iMac would be gimped with the T2 chip and all sorts of other 'gotchas' that I didn't want. I bought a 2017 27inch and now wish I had waited.
At least this beauty will be around for a while and I can grab one on refurb in a year.
 
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I think that some of the people commenting here and complaining about how slow 5400 rpm drives are aren't aware as to what 5400 rpm actually means. It is not the sole measure of a hard drive's speed and being 5400 rpm does *not* mean it's super slow. It is purely a measure of the *rotational* speed of the platters in the drive. While it is true that a 7200 rpm drive *with all other specs identical to a 5400 rpm drive* would be able to read data faster, there are multiple other factors. A drive also reads data faster if it is higher capacity per platter (the data is closer together and per revolution, more can be read), if it has more platters (multiple platters can be read at the same time) and if it is bigger (a desktop hard drive will be faster than an otherwise similarly specced laptop hard drive as there is more data being read per revolution further out).

There are genuine reasons for wanting to go with a 5400 rpm drive instead of a 7200 rpm drive - mainly that they are significantly less likely to fail and within the 3 years of AppleCare most people get, the hard drives are by far the most likely parts to fail as they are the mechanical parts that see the most use (optical drives similarly have a high failure rate which might be part of the reason why they're not included on Macs anymore).

If I were to complain about the standard hard drives in these models, I wouldn't be complaining that it's a slow 5400 rpm drive, I'd be complaining that it's not a *higher capacity* 5400 rpm drive. Chances are, a 2TB 5400 rpm drive would actually be faster than a 1TB 7200 rpm drive anyway. Although, I'm guessing that Apple is keeping the mechanical drive capacity option low so that the SSD options look more tempting.
 
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There’s no T2 because this is not the real iMac update. It’s a stopgap they had to do because their hardware was laughably outdated. Now only some of the iMac is laughably outdated. Makes you feel at least slightly better about paying the asking price. I suspect there will be a total redesign in the fall.

I am hugely thankful there's no T2. That's just an obstruction to upgrades imo.
 
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I think that some of the people commenting here and complaining about how slow 5400 rpm drives are aren't aware as to what 5400 rpm actually means. It is not the sole measure of a hard drive's speed and being 5400 rpm does *not* mean it's super slow. It is purely a measure of the *rotational* speed of the platters in the drive. While it is true that a 7200 rpm drive *with all other specs identical to a 5400 rpm drive* would be able to read data faster, there are multiple other factors. A drive also reads data faster if it is higher capacity per platter (the data is closer together and per revolution, more can be read), if it has more platters (multiple platters can be read at the same time) and if it is bigger (a desktop hard drive will be faster than an otherwise similarly specced laptop hard drive as there is more data being read per revolution further out).

There are genuine reasons for wanting to go with a 5400 rpm drive instead of a 7200 rpm drive - mainly that they are significantly less likely to fail and within the 3 years of AppleCare most people get, the hard drives are by far the most likely parts to fail as they are the mechanical parts that see the most use (optical drives similarly have a high failure rate which might be part of the reason why they're not included on Macs anymore).

If I were to complain about the standard hard drives in these models, I wouldn't be complaining that it's a slow 5400 rpm drive, I'd be complaining that it's not a *higher capacity* 5400 rpm drive. Chances are, a 2TB 5400 rpm drive would actually be faster than a 1TB 7200 rpm drive anyway. Although, I'm guessing that Apple is keeping the mechanical drive capacity option low so that the SSD options look more tempting.

This is all and fine, but these machines are being offered with a 5400 RPM drive as the BOOT drive.

There is absolutely no reason for every modern computer to not have an SSD as its boot drive.
 

Am I the only one who LOVES the iMac design and doesn't want it to change?

It's iconic and beautiful, and I can't find anything wrong with it visually. The last major revision, to make it thinner and lighter, pretty much perfected it.

The only thing I'd be happier with is better serviceability, but iMacs, especially with SSDs, have gotten so reliable that it doesn't matter as much as it used to.
 
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