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Apple Updates iWeb to 2.0.3

quantumbits said:
Meh. I wish Apple would just redesign iWeb. IMO, iWeb is a horrible and deficient tool if you're between the ages of 15 and 60 and you aren't required to wear a helmet at all times. Otherwise, its fabulous. Its the web-authoring version of Photo Booth.

First, its ridiculous to me that it doesn't have a table editor (Please don't cite convoluted work-arounds. Tables are basic and essential web elements.). Second, the code it actually spits out is as far from parsimony as you can possibly get. Third, I loathe that its deliberately designed so as to frustrate publication of content to anywhere but a .Mac site (i.e. generate the files on my disk, sift through them, scp them to the server, etc.).

The last point is what really tickes me off and is starting to sour me on the brand. Its happening too often lately for my taste (e.g. ATV, Time Capsule, MBA, ...). Steve, here's a tip: a significant enough fraction of your customers aren't afraid of computers. IOW, you don't need to make all of our choices for us. Thanks.
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I don't think iWeb is for people who are like web programers, and that is why I LOVE it :)
 
Analog Kid said:
Can we save our own templates yet? Are there any that don't have the Apple logo at the bottom?
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You can delete the Apple logo. I did on mine.

Analog Kid said:
As much as it freaks me out when a company starts tracking my usage habits, I do kind of wish Apple would figure out that no one is really using iWeb and Automator. Two great concepts that just aren't quite sophisticated enough to be useful.
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I LOVE iWeb and know a ton of people that do. Automator... not a ton of people utilize that, but the ones that do LOVE it cause it really is amazing. I would like to figure it out more myself.
 
MacFly123 said:
There is something wrong obviously. Seriously everyone I know running Leopard, which is a lot of people, are running it just fine, including myself. The only people I hear with so many problems with Leopard are a few in these forums... seriously. So there must be something wrong with your machine or something.
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I believe it had to do with the 5.1 update because the machine was perfect until that update. I've done an archive and install and I'm not going to upgrade to 5.1, but instead wait for 5.2.

Things are acting normal now
 
UMHurricanes34 said:
Well lets see...apps freeze randomly, force quit does nothing, Finder hangs nearly everytime I open it, force relaunch doesnt work. Same issues every single time I use my machine. I can reboot and get things normal, but these issues will just pop up immediately. I'm restarting nearly every 30 minutes because the entire system just hangs. I can't take it anymore.
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I once had (in fact, still have) a D-Link USB hub that was causing near-exact symptoms.

I assume you've tried taking out peripherals already?
 
quantumbits said:
Meh. I wish Apple would just redesign iWeb. IMO, iWeb is a horrible and deficient tool if you're between the ages of 15 and 60 and you aren't required to wear a helmet at all times. Otherwise, its fabulous. Its the web-authoring version of Photo Booth.

First, its ridiculous to me that it doesn't have a table editor (Please don't cite convoluted work-arounds. Tables are basic and essential web elements.). Second, the code it actually spits out is as far from parsimony as you can possibly get. Third, I loathe that its deliberately designed so as to frustrate publication of content to anywhere but a .Mac site (i.e. generate the files on my disk, sift through them, scp them to the server, etc.).

The last point is what really tickes me off and is starting to sour me on the brand. Its happening too often lately for my taste (e.g. ATV, Time Capsule, MBA, ...). Steve, here's a tip: a significant enough fraction of your customers aren't afraid of computers. IOW, you don't need to make all of our choices for us. Thanks.
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Ok, you're being an idiot. Just because it's not the right tool for you, you gotta beat down on those of us who like it? the hell?? Want to kick my dog too?

First, I don't need (or have any desire really) to edit tables. I like placing my elements where I want them and letting iWeb figure out how to make it happen. I want iWeb to put stuff where I tell it, not where it tells me I can.

Second, I don't give a flying cracker what code it spits out. That's between iWeb and my host and users browsers. All I know, and all I want to know is what I layout on screen is pretty much what the end user sees in their browser.

Third, you have a problem with the "Publish to folder" command? How difficult is that to grasp for a guy who was looking for high-level code editing a second ago? And what the hell are you doing "sifting through" anything after you publish? Just publish to a folder, then upload that folder to your host. Are you simple or something? My 60 year-old mother can probably handle that! If it's truly too difficult, I'll dig up a plugin for you.

Using iWeb then bitching about things like code output and table editing is like using a moped then bitching that it doesn't do what a car does. Dude, it appears iWeb wasn't made for you. It appears you want one of the plethora of advanced / professional web editors out there. So go buy one instead of bitching here that your orange isn't a pineapple.

Wanting to use apps that are simple, intuitive, and... well, work doesn't mean we're afraid of computers either, and it says a lot about you that you think (much less post) like this.
 
Beric said:
Anyway, on with 10.5.2! I want an end to that Macbook wireless dropout!
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Agreed. Although it's been less frequent since 10.5.1 was released but it still happens way more than it ever did with 10.4.10 =/
 
sananda said:
most posters are talking about 10.5.2. anyone installed the iweb update? any changes?
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Sorry, the only iLife apps I'm using often are iTunes and iPhoto.
iWeb? Geez, even Frontpage Express was a better HTML editor than that.
 
To each his own

I am just happy we are getting updates. iWeb 2.0.3 I love you! Anyway, I hope its not another year and a half before they update Ilife. I also love to see how they improved an app or completely ignore it.
 
errg, ya know I use iWeb now and then, and truthfully I always find myself frustrated with how castrated it is without a .Mac account. I wish they would either make .Mac worth having (at their price I want a MySQL database, and PHP), or start making some of the features in their apps be able more stand-alone. Or heck if they don't want to make the features work without an Apple based solution they could at least allow it to fully work directly with Mac OS X Server. At least then they would make more sells on OS X Servers.

A bit more on topic, updates to any of the apps are welcome, and I hope the iWeb 2.0.3 update is bringing us closer to 10.5.2.
 
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