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Apples thinking of making the next mac software release look like iOS 7!!! I can see it! PLEASE APPLE dont do it!!!! I like how macs different from iOS and I im the only one on this site who runs around saying that I love iOS 7
 
Glad to see they are updating, but I am concerned about the next OSX.

For one, the iOS 7 redesign takes a lot more graphic horsepower, I can just picture the lag and jerky animations. Yes, I can see the kernel panics now....


In all seriousness, I do like the clean look of iOS 7, minus the neon and transparency. I think OSX could get a facelift, but I don't want all the wasted white space...and I REALLY don't want an iPad-like Safari UI.
 
Been using iWork in the cloud heavily and it's been wonderful. Helping my fiancee with her resume and working on it together in real time is such a treat. Just hope these features come to the Mac at some point.

Same here. It's a great thing to work together on papers in college through iCloud/iWork :)

I love the new look. I hated the previous one.
 
27" of pure white-space. with tiny text. free update coming next fall :apple: :mad:

and people argue with me that iOS7 isn't flat
 
this is not a design this is just a poor ****!

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I'm just panicking bad because these idiots are gonna screw OS X, too. I'll buy a mbpr and I'll never update it to flat stupid character-less design.
 
Yes. Here are two screenshots of the updated Pages and Numbers running in full screen mode on a 15" Retina display (downsized). They were looking much like this before this update too, with the property pane making use of the width on wide screen displays.

Edit: Oops, I see I happened to pick two apps you specifically weren't asking for. :D But yes, Keynote looks much the same, making full use of the available space. The presentation is zoomed to fit the area next to the properties pane and there are no real "empty margins" to speak of. I could have zoomed into the page in Pages to get rid of those there too.

The compose windows are all still the old linen non-flat designs :(
 
In the full article it said,
...the Mac should be easily approachable and learnable by just looking at it, that it should bend to the will of the person and not bend the person’s will to the technology

I had to laugh a bit at this one since the truth is that it bent towards the will of Steve Jobs and stayed there. OSX is OSX and looks like it. There is no theme manager, for example. So if my will is to have OSX look and feel a certain way...well how am I supposed to do that? How do I make OSX bend to my will rather than it making me do things the way it wants me to? Sorry, but that statement was and is a load of horse manure. Apple COULD offer a LOT more configuration options and preference panes and they purposely don't. If anything, they've been steadily making things stiffer and stiffer as time goes on (when did NFS disappear from Server, for example?)

I still like OSX a lot better than Windows but at least some of that preference has to do with the lack of malware (and a registry for that matter). I like the UNIX underpinnings, but when it comes across flat is when Apple half-arses it. For example, my Mac Mini SERVER will go to sleep while XBMC on an AppleTV or another computer is accessing a movie or TV show from it. This is because their sleep "assertion" system doesn't recognize their own NFS protocol's network activity as a reason to stay awake, only SMB and AFP. This results in a disaster if you use sleep and NFS together. I had to disable sleep once again after finally getting it to wake properly the other day all thanks to Apple being Apple and disregarding their own policies for their own products whenever they feel like it. Bend to my will? Bullcrap. I sent Apple feedback on this problem. Let's see how fast they rectify the situation for NFS. Why don't they just include it as a clickable option in "Sharing" like SMB and AFP? Again, they want me to bed to THEIR will. I assume they only include NFS for their UNIX certification or something. Otherwise, I can't imagine why they keep it around and update it when the rest of OSX is designed to pretend it doesn't exist. I use it because it works a lot better with XBMC than AFP (buggy in XBMC) and SMB (SMB2 didn't work right until 12.3 just released and older versions of XBMC won't support it).

It often feels like Apple has run out of ideas for OSX, but this is ridiculous because I could make quite a list of things to improve. The problem is that they won't do any of those things because they don't listen to their customers. Steve Jobs always made it clear that he dictated products to the customer, not the other way around. So far, I see no change in that policy.
 
Glad to see they are updating, but I am concerned about the next OSX.

For one, the iOS 7 redesign takes a lot more graphic horsepower, I can just picture the lag and jerky animations. Yes, I can see the kernel panics now....


In all seriousness, I do like the clean look of iOS 7, minus the neon and transparency. I think OSX could get a facelift, but I don't want all the wasted white space...and I REALLY don't want an iPad-like Safari UI.

Apple already use a lot of animations in OS X, in fact many folks have turned them off via defaults command to speed up the system a bit.

The main issue with iOS 7 isn't because the interface uses up more resources (it really doesn't eat up that much compared to previous OS versions) but that Apple rushed iOS 7 with crappy code.

If Apple took their time with iOS 7 and wait another year, it'd be a smooth upgrade with the stability that iOS is known for. iOS 7.1 is already a massive improvement over iOS 7 and that's just 3-4 months after iOS 7's release.

Sadly with the focus on providing annual releases, Apple's QA controls have gone to crap. They need to slow down to 18-24 months like they had in the past because they're too small to able to handle these type of releases.
 
Apple already use a lot of animations in OS X, in fact many folks have turned them off via defaults command to speed up the system a bit.

The main issue with iOS 7 isn't because the interface uses up more resources (it really doesn't eat up that much compared to previous OS versions) but that Apple rushed iOS 7 with crappy code.

If Apple took their time with iOS 7 and wait another year, it'd be a smooth upgrade with the stability that iOS is known for. iOS 7.1 is already a massive improvement over iOS 7 and that's just 3-4 months after iOS 7's release.

Sadly with the focus on providing annual releases, Apple's QA controls have gone to crap. They need to slow down to 18-24 months like they had in the past because they're too small to able to handle these type of releases.


I'm glad to hear that 7.1 is an improvement. I agree that an annual OSX refresh is too much. I would prefer an 18-24 month major cycle with regular improvement or small additions as updates.
 
Don't care about the eye candy

The debate can rage about which interface is prettier, but there are deeper concerns. PUHLEEEZ, Apple, bring back the features! I'm stuck in Pages 09 because they killed table of contents support. Never mind the gimmicks and reworking the look...again. Depth of features is what is important in an office suite.
 
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