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Apple Updates iWork for iOS and Mac with Yosemite and Continuity Support
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I stand corrected. Thank you very much for pointing this out. Maybe it's a sign that it's either a) it's not an intuitive program or b) i'm an idiot
No linked text boxes, no template section inserts mentioned in that list. Deal killer.
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But they got those sexy icons...
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Lots of people don't even know that this feature ever existed. Pretty soon it be like it never did.
As a power user, how do you work around the fact that the latest version of Pages does NOT support linked text boxes?
Well I'm more of a Keynote power user than Pages but even with Pages I find the ability to edit and share documents with coworkers in real time on Macs, PCs, iPhones, and iPads (and without messing up the files ) far outweighs not having linked text boxes. It's not even close for us but your mileage may vary. I personally never really used linked text boxes.
And the new versions are just so much easier to use that when we had one of our Windows users switch to Mac they were able to pick up how to use the new iWork and start collaborating with us on it much faster than we're used to seeing.
As a test I opened a complex document that I'd created in Pages 4.1 in Pages 5.0. The formatting was totally annihilated. To make it even nicer, Pages 5.0 autosaved the document in the new format. Considering, I don't see how anyone's milage could vary very much, unless they were only barely using Pages.
I never really used the linked text boxes. And the real time collaboration features that are non-existent in the old versions trump linked text boxes for us... by far. The template features I believe you are referring to (adding and moving sections in the sidebar I suppose???) were added quite some time ago.
Apparently you never did, but some of us exploited that feature a lot. I really wanted to use the collaboration feature, but having to give up one feature you need to get another feature you'd like is something that should never happen in software. The destruction of documents and autosaving the destroyed versions over the original should also never happen. I don't think the template creation features of 5.x are on a par with 4.x yet. I have closely followed all the threads on iWork and nobody has said as much.
Well obviously if you are a heavy user of linked text boxes and the new versions don't support that, then the formatting is going to be completely off.
We don't usually open old files and try to use them with the new versions. Especially if they are complex documents. Maybe that's your problem. I'm not sure why you would do that anyway since it's not like you can't keep opening them with the old versions.
Any new documents however are created with the new versions and I've been enjoying working in the new apps. And with Handoff and iCloud Drive released today, this workflow is going to work even better. I'm constantly on the move and don't always have easy access to my Mac but need access to my docs and collaboration with my team. So the stuff these new apps do (especially with Yosemite and collaboration with others) just makes the old versions quite a bit outdated even considering the few relatively obscure features they don't have yet.
It wasn't just the linked text boxes. The forms I'd created using them were toast in the new version since the feature was gone. The other documents I tried did not use linked text boxes at all, but it were toasted too. I was too horrified by the results to explore it much further but since so many others were filing similar reports I know this was a widespread issue. If you have the new version installed, double-clicking on any Pages document automatically opens them in the new version. The over-writing is also automatic. You have no choice in the matter. Fortunately I was forewarned so my test documents were duplicates.
Yes, I would enjoy the collaboration feature, and no, the lost features were hardly obscure.
I had all of iWork and iMovie and iPhoto installed before I performed a clean install of Yosemite. Now they're all gone and MAS is asking me to pay for them?? What should I do?
Edit: I sorted it out by copying the applications from my Time Machine backup.
Edit: I sorted it out by copying the applications from my Time Machine backup.
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Amen. No FACING PAGES in a word processor? That's about as basic as page layout gets. SOME of us still print books you know, Apple.
Amen. No FACING PAGES in a word processor? That's about as basic as page layout gets. SOME of us still print books you know, Apple.
Still no facing pages, eh?
Not just books need them. Professional reports do too.
Pages was a crock a while back. I'd edited a Mac version page using esoteric features and it looked good. Opened in on the iPhone only to see that it appeared broken because of few features parity across machines.
Love the screen name, not the comment.
Feature parity is meaningless when the features are inadequate.
Yep, I'm still at iWork '09, and it's great. I think it's hilarious that this update is marked as incompatible with Mavericks, as if they mean that the design doesn't match it. I definitely don't want the "all new look".
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Amen. No FACING PAGES in a word processor? That's about as basic as page layout gets. SOME of us still print books you know, Apple.
LaTeX has that covered, as it does the outline format I needed that Pages didn't have.
I would hardly call iWork '09 great. It lacks so many features. The simple fact that the new iWork has even less features does not make the old version great. They are both crap.
If people weren't complaint about the advanced bloated features and wanted a simple text document editor then maybe Apple would have left it alone. Look, back in the day I remembered there was the Windows Suite of Word and Excel for Mac but one for Students, a dumbed down version with limited functionality and then another for pros business level. Office for Mac was crap and so was Pages back in the day but most people werent even able to share and send files like you can nowadays. Software back 10-15 years ago was far more expensive and alternative venues to document and spreadsheet creation were also not so great. Paying a one time app fee of $10-$20 for software Apple creates, Free Google Docs and Spreadsheet, MS Office OneDrive or whatever they call it seeing that MS has rebranded the Office suite and is subscription based and third-party apps on both iOS and OS X. You're not forced to buy the darn thing so find yourself an alternative then and stop complaining you trolls. Pay up the $20... You're not gonna die because you hate dealing with your first world problems.
Since its a big problem then become a software engineer and solve thes problems so the rest of the world can benefit.
I fear you may have to give up on that and have a backup plan for when your Mac dies.
I can limp by with the new Pages, it doesn't let me format footers the way I used to, but it'll do.
I never got anything useful from any version of Numbers.
Keynote-- what they did to Keynote is unforgivable. It was an amazing application that I struggle to even make useable any more. Doing any sort of complex build is downright painful...
I'm hoping the newest is better, but Yosemite has been saying "2 mins remaining" for about an hour now... This doesn't bode well.
I never got anything useful from any version of Numbers.
Keynote-- what they did to Keynote is unforgivable. It was an amazing application that I struggle to even make useable any more. Doing any sort of complex build is downright painful...
I'm hoping the newest is better, but Yosemite has been saying "2 mins remaining" for about an hour now... This doesn't bode well.
As a power user, I could never go back to the old iWork apps now. Particularly because the ability to share and work on documents in real time with other people was nonexistent in the old apps. I can even edit on my iPhone while my coworker is editing in iCloud.com on her Windows PC. In real time. And that's just one of the new features the old versions never had.
Of course you wouldn't know all that since you said you deleted them the moment you saw them.
How do you get around no side-by-side pages? Linked text boxes? What about flexible file support for extensions like .rtfd?
And we knew it, but we chose not to give up power user features for cloud fluff.
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That is a great way of putting it. Thanks.
Feature parity is very handy, but if the features I need are there than parity is useless.
Are you referring to all three apps that comprise iWork? If so, I strongly disagree with your characterization of Keynote '09 as "crap." It's a lot better than PowerPoint in Office 2011. And, though I've gotten used to the new Keynote's user interface, it's still missing some important features that were in the previous version, especially animations on master slides.