Apple Updates iWork for iOS and Mac with Yosemite and Continuity Support

[AllergyDoc]

Out of curiosity, what is the benefit of this? I'm genuinely asking because I was an extremely heavier user of Pages 09 before they ruined it, but I never tried this.

A newsletter would be a perfect example. An article starts on page one and finishes on, say, page 4. If the text boxes are linked, you can edit the story on page one and it will flow correctly to page 4.

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I can layout my novels for print in Pages 4.3 because it offers mirrored pages. Nothing fancy, but necessary. I still cannot do this with the new Pages.

However, the new Pages works better for book covers because it has a master page function.

I use them both.

Neither allow for true small caps, though. Sadly.

 

[Traverse]

Thank you. But are you trying this on Pages '09 or the current Pages? I have tried to find it on Pages 5.5 (the one which was released last week) and I cannot find it.

That was in Pages '09, but it's in the new Pages as well (just hidden). In the sidebar click the expand triangle next to "Bullets and Lists." Where it says "No Bullets" use the drop down menu to select "Numbers". A checkbox for tiered numbers appears. (See screenshot).

For a company that loves simplicity, that's acutely very unintuitive.

 

[skaertus]

That was in Pages '09, but it's in the new Pages as well (just hidden). In the sidebar click the expand triangle next to "Bullets and Lists." Where it says "No Bullets" use the drop down menu to select "Numbers". A checkbox for tiered numbers appears. (See screenshot).



For a company that loves simplicity, that's acutely very unintuitive.

Thanks, very useful, thank you. Now I figured it out. I did not find a way to attach the numbering to the paragraph styles. For example, I cannot link Headings 1 to 1. and Headings 2 to 1.1., so that every time I choose the paragraph style the numbers are assigned automatically. Is there a way of doing it?

 

[Traverse]

A newsletter would be a perfect example. An article starts on page one and finishes on, say, page 4. If the text boxes are linked, you can edit the story on page one and it will flow correctly to page 4.
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My gosh I'm an idiot. For some reason I thought Sracer meant two boxes side by side. It must be too late at night for me. Brain fart.

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Thanks, very useful, thank you. Now I figured it out. I did not find a way to attach the numbering to the paragraph styles. For example, I cannot link Headings 1 to 1. and Headings 2 to 1.1., so that every time I choose the paragraph style the numbers are assigned automatically. Is there a way of doing it?

Hmmmm. I haven't tried that, but will attempt it tomorrow and get back to you.

 

[Peepo]

It's a bug and iWork apps won't pick from Dropbox. You only see Dropbox if you have another app installed which gets register but even so you can't pick from Dropbox. I believe Dropbox will have to update. It's still confusing because if you pick from another location the app (eg. pages ) will still make a copy in its own folder duplicating the file. I thought this wasn't supposed to happen and solve the problem of duplicate files in each app but I guess not.

I have found since not really a bug concerning picking from Dropbox.

There appears to be two ways to pick documents - copy to the apps folder and in-place open/edit without making a copy.

What Pages etc. does is try to in-place edit instead of copy.
When trying to pick from iCloud, it is allowed to open a file ok.
But it cannot pick from dropbox because the files are on a different provider and not stored in iCloud.

You can see this in an App like latest Goodreader update - import a file from iCloud using copy will show dropbox available. Opening a file without copying will not show dropbox because it is not possible to edit directly if it is not in iCloud (it's actually in Dropbox).

Having said that, maybe dropbox could build some advanced complicated system which allows editing and have it send the updates back to dropbox. I am not sure on this though.

 

[Traverse]

For example, I cannot link Headings 1 to 1. and Headings 2 to 1.1., so that every time I choose the paragraph style the numbers are assigned automatically. Is there a way of doing it?

I've never tried this. I attempted it, but couldn't get it to work that way. There is an option under "Format" to "Create a New paragraph style from selection," so perhaps you create your tiered list and Apple your headings (you have to apply the headings first) and then create a new style. I'm not sure if this will work, but it may.

 

[IJ Reilly]

- I may be wrong, but I think Pages can have portrait and landscape.

Yes, it does. If we are talking 4.x at least.

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I've never tried this. I attempted it, but couldn't get it to work that way. There is an option under "Format" to "Create a New paragraph style from selection," so perhaps you create your tiered list and Apple your headings (you have to apply the headings first) and then create a new style. I'm not sure if this will work, but it may.

Yes, this works. In fact this is the primary way of defining new paragraph and character styles in Pages 4.x.

 

[Traverse]

In fact this is the primary way of defining new paragraph and character styles in Pages 4.x.

Okay, thank you. I've used the paragraph styles, but never with tired numbers so I was unsure. Thank you.

 

[IJ Reilly]

However, the new Pages works better for book covers because it has a master page function.

I am curious about what you mean here. When I wrote and designed my book in Pages, I defined left, right, and chapter title master pages.

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Okay, thank you. I've used the paragraph styles, but never with tired numbers so I was unsure. Thank you.

I haven't tried this particular application of style creation, but style management is one of the strengths of Pages 4.x, so I presume it would work. The paragraph settings you need are probably somewhat buried in the Inspector. The other trick is to set the following style for paragraphs.

 

[AllergyDoc]

I am curious about what you mean here. When I wrote and designed my book in Pages, I defined left, right, and chapter title master pages.

What I meant was you can designate a cover image as a Master Object, make it unselectable (if that's even a word), then easily lay text over the image. I couldn't figure out how to do this in Pages 4.3.

If I had graphic skills, and the necessary software, I suppose I would do this in a true graphics software. I don't so I make due. I used MS Publisher in my PC days.

 

[IJ Reilly]

What I meant was you can designate a cover image as a Master Object, make it unselectable (if that's even a word), then easily lay text over the image. I couldn't figure out how to do this in Pages 4.3.

If I had graphic skills, and the necessary software, I suppose I would do this in a true graphics software. I don't so I make due. I used MS Publisher in my PC days.

I'm not sure from what you are saying, but this seems to be the same as Master Objects in Pages 4.x. To make them Master Objects, you go to Format/Advanced/Move Object to Section Master. A lot of good stuff in 4.x is found in that Advanced menu, the one I suspect most Pages users don't ever look at. It's also where you find Capture Pages.

 

[sracer]

What I meant was you can designate a cover image as a Master Object, make it unselectable (if that's even a word), then easily lay text over the image. I couldn't figure out how to do this in Pages 4.3.

If I had graphic skills, and the necessary software, I suppose I would do this in a true graphics software. I don't so I make due. I used MS Publisher in my PC days.

If I am understanding what you'd like to do, then in Pages 4.3:

• Paste the image onto your cover page
• (with the image still selected) Bring up the Inspector, select the 3rd icon from the left "Wrap"
• Uncheck "Object causes wrap"
• Click on "In background"

To avoid accidentally selecting the background image while adding text, Uncheck "Background objects are selectable"

And for greater flexibility, use a Text box for accurate placement of the text over the image.

 

[AllergyDoc]

I'm not sure from what you are saying, but this seems to be the same as Master Objects in Pages 4.x. To make them Master Objects, you go to Format/Advanced/Move Object to Section Master. A lot of good stuff in 4.x is found in that Advanced menu, the one I suspect most Pages users don't ever look at. It's also where you find Capture Pages.

If I am understanding what you'd like to do, then in Pages 4.3:

• Paste the image onto your cover page
• (with the image still selected) Bring up the Inspector, select the 3rd icon from the left "Wrap"
• Uncheck "Object causes wrap"
• Click on "In background"

To avoid accidentally selecting the background image while adding text, Uncheck "Background objects are selectable"

And for greater flexibility, use a Text box for accurate placement of the text over the image.

I'll be damned. Thanks guys.

 

[sracer]

I haven't tried this particular application of style creation, but style management is one of the strengths of Pages 4.x, so I presume it would work. The paragraph settings you need are probably somewhat buried in the Inspector. The other trick is to set the following style for paragraphs.

It is not possible to include "list" as part of a paragraph style.

However, you CAN have a header as part of a "list".

• Mark the desired header text as a "Header"style (keep the text selected)
• (In the "Text" tab of the Inspector) click on (List)
• Under "Bullets & Numbering" select "Tiered Numbers" (or "Numbers")
• Set Indent Level to "1"

NOTE #1: For the next header in the document, perform the same steps but make sure that "Continue from previous" is selected.

NOTE #2: Only use "level 1" for headers. All other lists in the document should use level 2 and higher.

That should automatically number headers and keep the body lists in their own order.

 

[jtrauscht]

Correction: It was unusable for YOU. Not everyone has the same bugs and glitches. Pages runs perfect for me right now.

To everyone complaining about OS X Yosemite looks:
If you don't like it, don't download it. I have friends that are still using Snow Leopard to this very day. Nobody is forcing you to go with the flow of design changes. Time Cook is definitely not holding a gun to your head until you update. Why complain? We the choice when it comes to OS and software updates.

Yeah, you're right. People shouldn't feel as though they have the right to review an Apple product. : /

 

[TMRJIJ]

That was in Pages '09, but it's in the new Pages as well (just hidden). In the sidebar click the expand triangle next to "Bullets and Lists." Where it says "No Bullets" use the drop down menu to select "Numbers". A checkbox for tiered numbers appears. (See screenshot).

For a company that loves simplicity, that's acutely very unintuitive.

It is very simple for me. Old Pages confused that crap out of me.

 

[Traverse]

It is very simple for me. Old Pages confused that crap out of me.

Well, once you learned your way around the Inspector it was simple; everything was right there. In Pages 5 you have Apple's "smart sidebar" which dumbs everything down and hides options under dropdown means. Like 60% of the sidebar is blank space for me.

 

[bigfib]

I dont want a "new look" I want reliability.

As a professional writer who has written five full length (bestselling) novels in Pages 09, I can confirm that these new versions are unusable for me.
Constant crashing (just try a forward then backward word search and you'll see) missing features, clunky illogical interface decisions, it was like going back to the horrors of Bill Gates' universe.
After a few months of struggle, and plenty of lost work, I have deleted it and reinstalled Pages 09.
There are so many bugs in these new versions, I fear for Apple's future.
It reminds me of Mac OS 7... Luckily Steve came back to fix that...
I'm thinking about updating to Yosemite! but this, plus the horrors of ios 8.0 have made me very nervous.
PS. Can anyone tell me if I'll even be able to use pages 09 under Yosemite?

 

[sracer]

As a professional writer who has written five full length (bestselling) novels in Pages 09, I can confirm that these new versions are unusable for me.
Constant crashing (just try a forward then backward word search and you'll see) missing features, clunky illogical interface decisions, it was like going back to the horrors of Bill Gates' universe.
After a few months of struggle, and plenty of lost work, I have deleted it and reinstalled Pages 09.
There are so many bugs in these new versions, I fear for Apple's future.
It reminds me of Mac OS 7... Luckily Steve came back to fix that...
I'm thinking about updating to Yosemite! but this, plus the horrors of ios 8.0 have made me very nervous.
PS. Can anyone tell me if I'll even be able to use pages 09 under Yosemite?

The general consensus is that iWork 09 does work under Yosemite. As for me, I'm sticking with Mavericks and iWork 09. I'm pleased with that combo and see no need to mess with that setup.