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Would someone be able to explain to me why people in this thread keep referring to Pages version 4.1 when 4.3 is the latest release of Pages '09? Did versions 4.2 and 4.3 introduce regressions?
 
Would someone be able to explain to me why people in this thread keep referring to Pages version 4.1 when 4.3 is the latest release of Pages '09? Did versions 4.2 and 4.3 introduce regressions?

I think 4.1 may have been the last version to support Snow Leapord. 4.2 and 4.3 were Lion and Mountain Lion updates I believe.
 
Would someone be able to explain to me why people in this thread keep referring to Pages version 4.1 when 4.3 is the latest release of Pages '09? Did versions 4.2 and 4.3 introduce regressions?

I think 4.1 may have been the last version to support Snow Leapord. 4.2 and 4.3 were Lion and Mountain Lion updates I believe.

Yes, the 4.2 and 4.3 versions are for compatibility with Lion and later, as well as support for the iOS 1.7 apps (though how much of the latter is useful for compatibility with the most recent generation of iWork on iOS apps, I don't know). Another strange aspect of these updates is that since I was never offered an opportunity to update when I was running Snow Leopard, and I am now running Mavericks, the AppStore shows my only upgrade option as being to Pages 5.0. So I suppose I need to download the freestanding installer and update to 4.3.

Thanks for bringing this up.
 
Yes, the 4.2 and 4.3 versions are for compatibility with Lion and later, as well as support for the iOS 1.7 apps (though how much of the latter is useful for compatibility with the most recent generation of iWork on iOS apps, I don't know). Another strange aspect of these updates is that since I was never offered an opportunity to update when I was running Snow Leopard, and I am now running Mavericks, the AppStore shows my only upgrade option as being to Pages 5.0. So I suppose I need to download the freestanding installer and update to 4.3.

Thanks for bringing this up.

If you can use a machine running Mountain Lion (Even through a VM) you can download the "last compatible version" for ML which is 4.3, not 5. Then you can just copy the app over to mavericks.
 
If you can use a machine running Mountain Lion (Even through a VM) you can download the "last compatible version" for ML which is 4.3, not 5. Then you can just copy the app over to mavericks.

I just downloaded the freestanding updater for Pages 4.3. Apple does not make this easy to find, but it is available here:

http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1563

Have not run it yet though. Will wait until I am finished with a big Pages project I have going now.
 
I just downloaded the freestanding updater for Pages 4.3. Apple does not make this easy to find, but it is available here:

http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1563

Have not run it yet though. Will wait until I am finished with a big Pages project I have going now.

You're right, they make that hard to find. I wish they would have made the new iWork as free applications separate from their '09 counterparts. I am sick to death of being alerted that new updates are available. I'd download it just to shut the system up, but then the default application changes and that is just too annoying!
 
Using anything but MS Office in a workplace or school environment is still laughable

It's good that it's free but Apple has a loooong way to go

Apple's not the only one. The movement to group tools by some analysis of what the greatest number of users do turned Word '10 into a horrible mishmash where features common to my work are hidden deep in... well, I don't know if you can call them menus. Things that pop up, after things that pop down, from things dangling off apparently random points in a "ribbon bar." The ribbon bar is the Harrison Bergeron of interfaces. This has only gotten worse moving up to Word 13. I'm getting calls every day from people who use Word for their living (magazine writers and editors) who can't locate features, or can’t get consistent behavior, from MS’s latest.

All of it makes me long for layout programs and word processors of yore that didn't try to do everything with text, but did a good job at their set of tasks.
 
I just downloaded the freestanding updater for Pages 4.3.

Good find!

So if I install iWork 09 (4.1) on my Mavericks system using the original installer discs, then can I run the 4.3 updater, with the result of a working copy of 4.3 alongside/instead of the current iWork version?
 
You're right, they make that hard to find. I wish they would have made the new iWork as free applications separate from their '09 counterparts. I am sick to death of being alerted that new updates are available. I'd download it just to shut the system up, but then the default application changes and that is just too annoying!

I turned off the notifications. I still get the red number badge on the App Store icon, but I can live with that.

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The ribbon bar is the Harrison Bergeron of interfaces.

I had to look this one up. And here I thought I knew my Vonnegut. Harrison Bergeron, meet Kilgore Trout.

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Good find!

So if I install iWork 09 (4.1) on my Mavericks system using the original installer discs, then can I run the 4.3 updater, with the result of a working copy of 4.3 alongside/instead of the current iWork version?

In theory. Care to be the guinea pig? Science will thank you for your sacrifice.
 
If I get a chance I'll try it tomorrow. Working to a deadline here too, but seems straightforward enough and I'm curious. Just don't go mentioning sacrifices again.
 
applescript would be the only thing i believe and that just got added back in so the answer would probably be a no

Well that's disappointing. I was hoping to figure out how to make an automated D&D character sheet like people have done with Excel. I can't open it, sadly, because of a lack of full Office.
 
Well that's disappointing. I was hoping to figure out how to make an automated D&D character sheet like people have done with Excel. I can't open it, sadly, because of a lack of full Office.

So many Macros are heavily optimized on Windows anyway. I don't believe that Excel for Mac has full macro support, but I may be wrong on that. When I'm doing heavy Excel work for my AIS class I never use the Mac version.
 
Well that's disappointing. I was hoping to figure out how to make an automated D&D character sheet like people have done with Excel. I can't open it, sadly, because of a lack of full Office.

i think you are more likely to be able to do that in libreoffice and google sheets than numbers
 
Originally posted by IJ Reilly
I just downloaded the freestanding updater for Pages 4.3. Apple does not make this easy to find, but it is available here:

http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1563

Have not run it yet though. Will wait until I am finished with a big Pages project I have going now.

I just downloaded Pages 4.3 updater after installing iWork 09 from disc (Pages 4.0 from disc) onto MacBook Air running latest version of Mavericks. Pages 4.0 seemed to run fine before the update. Everything seems okay after the update too.
 
I just downloaded Pages 4.3 updater after installing iWork 09 from disc (Pages 4.0 from disc) onto MacBook Air running latest version of Mavericks. Pages 4.0 seemed to run fine before the update. Everything seems okay after the update too.

Thanks! I wonder if any of the iCloud integration works. This is something that was supposedly added in the Lion and later versions.
 
Thanks! I wonder if any of the iCloud integration works. This is something that was supposedly added in the Lion and later versions.

Pages 4.3 is loosely compatible with the old iOS apps and it does have iCloud integration, but if you try to open 4.3 files in the new iWork for iCloud or the new iOS apps it will "update" your documents and you will loose previous compatibility.
 
Pages 4.3 is loosely compatible with the old iOS apps and it does have iCloud integration, but if you try to open 4.3 files in the new iWork for iCloud or the new iOS apps it will "update" your documents and you will loose previous compatibility.

I figured. Did you manage to keep the previous versions of iWork for iOS?
 
I figured. Did you manage to keep the previous versions of iWork for iOS?

Yes, if you have the previous versions you can load them on iOS 7. They ran fine in my limited testing, but I didn't use them much.

However, when I said they were "loosely" compatible I meant it. I spent days trying to create a bulleted list and format template that I would duplicate in the iOS app, but it never worked. Formatting was often lost between iwork 09 and the iOS apps and every document I tried to open (even relatively simple ones) would give me a notice of all the things that would be changed or missing. For purely text documents with only basic formatting or bullets however, it got the job done.

This is why Apple's unified iWork across iOS and OS X is an admirable goal that I was excited for,. Sadly, they simply dumbed the suite down to achieve it.
 
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