Yes, let’s pretend that Google’s and other competitors things aren’t worse if not equally terrible...
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Do you think that's a technical reason or the fact Apple doesn't want people annoying others by turning on their (and potentially others') flashlights with voice?Works for me saying 'do not disturb'.
This one is better...
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Before I throw any parties celebrating John Giannandrea’s hiring and responsibilities let’s see if he is still there a year or 2 down the road. Many companies either always had or at some time developed a ‘Not Invented Here’ mindset. I’ve heard about a lot of hires at Apple that the next thing I hear about the person is that they are leaving.
Do you think that's a technical reason or the fact Apple doesn't want people annoying others by turning on their (and potentially others') flashlights with voice?
I mean, do you really think Siri can send a text, but not turn on the flashlight? It seems to me it's just a business decision, like a lot of the "shortcomings" of Siri. You might not like it, but let's not act like this is an amazing technical achievement.
U live under a rock.Show me one piece of data that indicates any shortcomings in Siri affects Apple's sales or overall strategy.
There is a lot of conjecture that voice assistant superiority means something, but show me the data. I really don't think Apple cares much about what Google Assistant does that incremental to Siri, because it's just not all that useful from a day to day perspective or even that evident to the average user.
Now show me evidence that Apple isn't making huge strides in AI that could be unleashed when it does become important.
One piece of data - I bought two echo spots, one for me and one for my mum and also got a google home mini because I knew from my iPhone that Siri was related to that brown animoji and that Alexa and Google were strides better.Show me one piece of data that indicates any shortcomings in Siri affects Apple's sales or overall strategy.
There is a lot of conjecture that voice assistant superiority means something, but show me the data. I really don't think Apple cares much about what Google Assistant does that incremental to Siri, because it's just not all that useful from a day to day perspective or even that evident to the average user.
Now show me evidence that Apple isn't making huge strides in AI that could be unleashed when it does become important.
Since I own two HomePods I’m almost getting mad about Siri’s so called AI.
Apple hired Giannandrea back in April, stealing him away from Google where he ran the search and artificial intelligence unit.
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Giannandrea is leading Apple's AI and machine learning teams, reporting directly to Apple CEO Tim Cook. He has taken over leadership of Siri, which was previously overseen by software engineering chief Craig Federighi.
Again, you have no idea why they don’t allow it.Odd that John Giannandrea doesn't even mention Apple in his LinkedIn profile as of today. Wanted to see what his title is at Apple and where he stands relative to the previous publicity hire of Russ Salakhutdinov who's Director of AI at Apple.
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It's probably an oversight rather than technical reason since Google Assistant can do it on iOS. Definitely not a business decision since it's showing up in a later version of iOS. This feature is actually used a lot so lack of it is a shortcoming. I've got $25 2013 Moto G Android 5.1 scattered throughout to turn on/off flashlight instead of fumbling in the dark for the light switch or when my hands are tied up besides other home assistant type tasks so I'd expect a $1K iPhone running the latest iOS release to be able to do the same.
Hahaha...just confirms I’m right. I know the numbers backwards and forwards...AI is not a profit engine, yet. Apple isn’t interested in stuff they don’t make money on...and this stuff is still mostly useless beyond the stuff Siri already does.U live under a rock.
Tech illiterate folks probably rely on AI more because they don’t know how to do much.One piece of data - I bought two echo spots, one for me and one for my mum and also got a google home mini because I knew from my iPhone that Siri was related to that brown animoji and that Alexa and Google were strides better.
My mum who is tech illiterate loves the Echo spot. I showed her how to use siri on the iPad and she still prefers Alexa.
Why aren't they able or willing to call Shortcuts what is? Automator.
There's nothing AI about scripts.
No one is pretending. It's a fact that Siri is horrible.Yes, let’s pretend that Google’s and other competitors things aren’t worse if not equally terrible...
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Because of a video from 2017 that has tons of biases? Lol! Love people’s definition of fact these days.No one is pretending. It's a fact that Siri is horrible.
Giving Siri an education requires this kind of prioritization. Glad to see it happen. The first thing he’ll need to decide is what Siri’s actually supposed to be/do.
Why doesn't the reviewer just turn on find my friends so his wife can track him ALL THE TIME. Sounds like he is hiding something....
This is good. I am happy with the hire as obviously Google has some smart people, but he will be building services and features that respect their users' privacy and won't be centered around data mining and advertising. I'd think this would be more appealing.
Why aren't they able or willing to call Shortcuts what is? Automator.
There's nothing AI about scripts.
Let’s say that Siri’s performance IS due to Apple’s concern about privacy. It should have been obvious years ago that they were falling behind in public acceptance and 3rd party adoption and either something done to correct the situation or if that is technically not possible with today’s tech then a full explanation along with proof. I can’t say what Apple was actually thinking but other than making a few ‘Hey Siri’ commercials I don’t think that they did anything.
When I first heard they hired Giannandrea back approximately three months ago, I believe Apple is bringing the changes to Siri. Siri has always had the potential to be the best, but unfortunately it’s been surpassed by Google and other competitors. I think Siri works great for in-house commands, but where it really needs improvement and I’m hoping this new hire can improve dictation and deciphering. I use Siri quite frequently for my AirPods, iPhone, iPad, etc. And I think we should start seeing some these changes hopefully in iOS 13 in 2019.
I never use Siri so personally I don’t care about any improvements made to it even if it ends up becoming the best assistant on the planet. I just don’t find it convenient to talk to my phone (I find it more awkward than anything) and I don’t run into any use cases that requires it. I’m sure many of you find it useful though.
I've been using my HomePod everyday since release and find both the device and Siri work extremely well together.
Or, you know, you could give the guy more than three freaking months to massively overhaul one of the original AI assistants with one of the largest install bases in the world. Siri shortcuts and integration into third party apps is already one of the biggest leaps forward that I can remember and that's shipping in September. Sure Siri isn't great but give the guy a break. Honestly.
Siri was under Eddie Cue originally and wrongfully so but occurred cause Siri was an internet connected service which is Cue’s scope. When the original founders that created Siri leading to Apple’s acquisition had left Apple, Siri had no direction.
Then Cook appointed Siri under Federighi since it’s softeare that creates Siri and makes Siri does what it does through the use of our devices. This was a wrong move because Federighi has far too much on his plate. He shouldn’t have been in charge since he was an underling of iOS creator. Not enough sxpertise in AI field.
Hoping this guy is up to the task and welcome to the Apple fold.
The development of CoreML & Siri under one dedicated team ... I see more than AR blending with Siri and W1 chip evolution and gyro. I see first Apple Watch combining with AR thin industry leading glasses as the main computing wearable to replace iPhone. Long term anyway.
Exactly what I mean. Is Siri a controller or is Siri an assistant? If Siri is going to be an assistant it must become far more intelligent, including a isn’t leap forward in contextual awareness. Shoot, right now it can’t even parse all my contacts correctly.When I first heard they hired Giannandrea back approximately three months ago, I believe Apple is bringing the changes to Siri. Siri has always had the potential to be the best, but unfortunately it’s been surpassed by Google and other competitors. I think Siri works great for in-house commands, but where it really needs improvement and I’m hoping this new hire can improve dictation and deciphering. I use Siri quite frequently for my AirPods, iPhone, iPad, etc. And I think we should start seeing some these changes hopefully in iOS 13 in 2019.
I wish this guy was given iCloud too. Just anybody but Eddy Cue having it.Totally. I would’ve be surprised if we don’t see any significant changes to Siri until WWDC 19.
I expect we’ll see lots of subtle changes beneath the hood, before then, though.
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I’d heard that people who are truly on the cutting edge of AI, didn’t want to work in ‘just another division’ of software engineering or services at Apple or for someone who they felt was not a leader in their field. With all due respect to Craig F and Eddie C I guess they’re not AI experts.
Working under someone who reports to the CEO and who presumably has a lot of power, should attract more AI superstars.
I wish this guy was given iCloud too. Just anybody but Eddy Cue having it.
I wish this guy was given iCloud too. Just anybody but Eddy Cue having it.
iCloud came out in 2011, didn't it? Apart from iCloud photo library and the iOS 7 era lick of paint, it's not had any significant updates.
Here's hoping that 2019 sees a significant change. I'd like a new name for a start i.e. if Apple Maps on the web, is called maps.apple.com, can we have cloud.apple.com too i.e. Apple Cloud.