Apple Updates Leopard Developer Preview

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According to reports, Apple has already provided an update to their Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard Preview that was distributed to developers at WWDC 2006. The update provides few details on the improvements provided:

This Software Update delivers improved reliability and compatibility for Mac OS X Leopard Developer Preview and is recommended for all users.
The 46.4MB release is simply entitled "Leopard Developer Preview Update 1.0" and updates Build 9A241 to Build 9A241e.

Apple demonstrated Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard at WWDC, revealing some of the features that are expected. Mac OS X 10.5 is not expected to be released until Spring of 2007.
 

dongmin

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Macrumors said:


According to reports, Apple has already provided an update to their Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard Preview that was distributed to developers at WWDC 2006. The update provides few details on the improvements provided:



The 46.4MB release is simply entitled "Leopard Developer Preview Update 1.0" and updates Build 9A241 to Build 9A241e.

Apple demonstrated Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard at WWDC, revealing some of the features that are expected. Mac OS X 10.5 is not expected to be released until Spring of 2007.
Any word on the Super Secret Leopard Features???
 

echeck

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ColdFlame87 said:
Anything asthetically new in this version, or perhaps some new small features?
Probably just stability issues and whatnot. Although if there are any new things I'm sure we'll hear about it soon enough. :)

I can't wait until Leopard!!
 

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amacgenius said:
Who wants to take bets on when the update will be released on torrent sites and FTP servers just like the dev beta? :D
It won't need to be, those who have 10.5 installed already simply need to run the builtin update software... just like every other system update for every other OS X version.
 

ajkrause

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ColdFlame87 said:
Anything asthetically new in this version, or perhaps some new small features?
Nope. Nothing has changed in the UI and no noteable new features. As far as the super secret Leopard features, dongmin, they still remain super secret although the few new features in the preview are quite handy and have already become "How did I ever live without this?" kind of valuable to me.

I haven't noticed any major changes so far since the update. The issues I was having before persist though not as often and they are minor. The Leopard Preview is surprisingly stable unlike someone else's beta OS... no names ::cough::Microsoft::cough::

Parallels Desktop for Mac works fine under Leopard BEFORE installing the recently released Parallels Desktop beta update. If you install the Parallels Desktop beta update, colors in the app buttons/windows are distorted (http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/9683/snapshot20060831231144xj6.jpg) and this Leopard update does not seem to remedy that. Also, as stated above, the build number has changed (http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/978/snapshot20060831230551mc2.jpg).

iChat continues to be buggy during one way video chats and Parallels after the update continues to have its issues (besides the color distortion) but prior to the Parallels update, these issues were not present so Parallels Desktop 1848 seems to be completely compatible with the Leopard preview but not Parallels 1862.

I should also note that fan behavior on my MacBook Pro with the Leopard Developer Preview (10.5) is excellent... immensely better than with Tiger (10.4.7) but that was true even before I installed the Leopard Preview Update 1.0. :D
 

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For some reason this bummed me out.

I guess I was hopeful that the developer preview was an old build with just enough for the developers to test their apps, and just enough cool new stuff to keep the public interested.

I was hoping that the build was 6 - 8 months old, and Apple was working on a build with all of the top secret features that was going to blow us away.

But I guess while there are obviously a few things up Apple's sleave, we've seen a good chunk of Leopard. I guess that makes sense given each release has 3 - 5 meaningful new features, and 20 or so little new nice touches.

I guesss my hope stemmed from the opportunity to slap Microsoft and Vista. Looks like Leopard is going to be a typical release.
 

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amacgenius said:
Who wants to take bets on when the update will be released on torrent sites and FTP servers just like the dev beta? :D
It says 'through Software Update', so if you have Leopard installed, you should be able to download it just like normal updates. No need to go BACK to torrents ;) .
 

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I got 9A2439 from my University's seeding server, while the one released to devs at WWDC was 9A2441... but nevertheless this updated to 9A2441e.

Upon rebooting I noticed everything was a bit snappier and some minor bugs were fixed. 10.5 is running really speedy... damn near 10.4 or dare I say... faster?
 

ajkrause

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mulletman13 said:
I got 9A2439 from my University's seeding server, while the one released to devs at WWDC was 9A2441... but nevertheless this updated to 9A2441e.

Upon rebooting I noticed everything was a bit snappier and some minor bugs were fixed. 10.5 is running really speedy... damn near 10.4 or dare I say... faster?
Apple has a history of that... making their OS'es run faster than the previous one on the same hardware. At least that's what my experience has been with Panther, Tiger and Leopard preview.

When I bought my Powerbook G4 3 years ago, it came with Panther, then I upgraded to Tiger and it seemed to run much faster... much more responsive. After its hard drive died, I sold it and repaced it with a MacBook Pro with Tiger pre-installed and now that I am running on Leopard, it's running just as fast and sometimes even faster than Tiger. I am very pleased.*:)
 

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Update away. Those of you running illegal copies of the WWDC (torrent) will be happy to know that your IP and other system/contact info is automatically logged and forwarded to Apple Legal by the Leopard Software Update. :eek:

"Enjoyed the preview? Good. We'll be contacting you soon..."
 

joshysquashy

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BWhaler said:
For some reason this bummed me out.

I guess I was hopeful that the developer preview was an old build with just enough for the developers to test their apps, and just enough cool new stuff to keep the public interested.

I was hoping that the build was 6 - 8 months old, and Apple was working on a build with all of the top secret features that was going to blow us away.

But I guess while there are obviously a few things up Apple's sleave, we've seen a good chunk of Leopard. I guess that makes sense given each release has 3 - 5 meaningful new features, and 20 or so little new nice touches.

I guesss my hope stemmed from the opportunity to slap Microsoft and Vista. Looks like Leopard is going to be a typical release.
Just because they are improving this build doesnt mean there aren't some major apps or system features they are not revealing to developers.

They could be updating another version of the OS alongside this one with extra goodness!, and the updates are most likely to be fixes based on what the devs tell them is buggy.

I think they have purposefully left stuff out of Leopard for the moment so that it is even more shocking when it is all revealed at the launch of Leopard! thats what apple does best, shocks the public with "one more thing!"
 

matthewroth

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sigh

if you think that apple have enough time to speak to every one with this istalled you are wrong! they will however stop people distributing it... this has been shown many times over the past few weeks.

i am proud to say i am running 10.5 on my top end mini, and will be updating it to leopard beta V0.2

EDIT: YAY, this fixed my problem with external hard drive crashes and makes this Super Speedy!
 

GodBless

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joshysquashy said:
Just because they are improving this build doesnt mean there aren't some major apps or system features they are not revealing to developers.

They could be updating another version of the OS alongside this one with extra goodness!, and the updates are most likely to be fixes based on what the devs tell them is buggy.

I think they have purposefully left stuff out of Leopard for the moment so that it is even more shocking when it is all revealed at the launch of Leopard! thats what apple does best, shocks the public with "one more thing!"
I have to agree. I am certain that when Steve Jobs said that there are "Top Secret" features he wasn't joking. Sure we have minor updates but that can't compete with Vista and those features aren't really good enough to be "Top Secret" after all -- how valuable to Microsoft and appealing to buyers are those small features anyway?

My assumption is that Apple will blast Vista away with new Leopard features that haven't been revealed to anyone yet -- including those developers who are currently testing Leopard -- just wait for MacWorld San Francisco (MWSF) in January.
 

majorp

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realtime said:
Update away. Those of you running illegal copies of the WWDC (torrent) will be happy to know that your IP and other system/contact info is automatically logged and forwarded to Apple Legal by the Leopard Software Update. :eek:

"Enjoyed the preview? Good. We'll be contacting you soon..."
yeah, it would only cost them $1000+ to have someone come round to my house and do something about it, well worth the £59 they would sell the end product for :rolleyes:

do they check everybodys IP, how do they know i wasn't at wwdc.
 

inkswamp

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I'm hoping one of the super secret features is a completely reworked Finder. While I don't think it's a deal-breaker by any means, I have to agree with those who say that the Finder is generally sluggish in ways that it should not be. I have a Windows XP box on my desk next to my G5 and XP's windows and menus are lightning fast and immediately responsive. Further, icons and file lists are pulled up instantaneously. With the Finder on the G5, there's always that little pause or the list of files take a second or two to show up or icons take a while to load. There's no reason Apple shouldn't be equal to or better than XP's interface, but it's not. It's the one area where Apple hasn't quite nailed it.

Still, I would take OS X over XP any day, but it sure would be good news to me to hear a fully revamped Finder with all these slowdowns ironed out.
 

matthewroth

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hell yeah

inkswamp said:
Still, I would take OS X over XP any day, but it sure would be good news to me to hear a fully revamped Finder with all these slowdowns ironed out.
Amen to that! :D

Have to admit though, they did take all the names and addresses of the Dev's that got the Beta. they would be able to identify who has an illigal copy VERY easily. the fact remains though that i live in the UK, are they realy going to scower the globe for every illigal beta!
 

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how do they release the preview to developers and not let loose the super secret features? are all the super secret features all applications which don't need testing?

or will there be another round of betas?:confused: :confused: :confused:
 

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puuukeey said:
how do they release the preview to developers and not let loose the super secret features? are all the super secret features all applications which don't need testing?

or will there be another round of betas?:confused: :confused: :confused:
My bet is that the GUI will be tested in the labs, there will be a few more apps put to the Dev's but not for a while yet. Apple want them to get board of spaces so they can put more atention on to the newer (SUPER SECRET) apps.

to be frank, the GUI will not be put out on any beta. this is the one thing apple dont want those pencil pushing theifs at redmond to see as it will no doubt work its way into there next relese (microsoft 2012?)
 

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I kinda feel like we should at least have the option to not have every element of our gui bogged down with image files.

I was thinking that it would be cool if more of the UI was plain openGL and less image based. how cool (although impracticle) would it be if the entire gui was 5 channels. R, G, B, alpha, displace. Then the os could load ONE metal image, and all the sliders, buttons,wells could be smokey glass(slightly transparent, dark grey, and displaced the image behind it like a glass of water.) that would be more open gl work but less loading of images.

that would reflect the realitive increase in graphics processors comprared to regular ones.

sometimes I just wonder how quick an update to the classic interface would fly on a modern machine
 

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puuukeey said:
how do they release the preview to developers and not let loose the super secret features? are all the super secret features all applications which don't need testing?

or will there be another round of betas?:confused: :confused: :confused:
they don't lose the secret features due to NDAs.