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It is about time that they gave a speed bump change to the MacBook. However, as I said in the previous rumor thread, this was not going to be the complete redesign and overhaul that others were calling for. Generally, these are the kinds of updates that you see in the fall. Wait for late winter or spring for big surprises.

But what will they update other than the case (hopefully)?
 
it's allways nice with upgrade..
info from apple - ".... To enjoy the greatest possible performance for processor-intensive tasks such as video rendering, gaming, and more, you can upgrade the processor in your MacBook Pro from the standard 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo to an even faster 2.6GHz Intel Core 2 Duo."

gaming?:):)

And the 200 gb 7200 rpm are nice but i shoulda bin 250 gb 7200 rpm..
I think they put on the 2.6 just to make a distance beetwen the pro and regular(the mackbook cannabilizem theory....it would be bether if they had waited longer and make a real upgrade with 2.8 penryn and a bether graphics..
but a "quiet" upgrade is bether then nothing i guess..

the question is should we wait for bether macbook pro's ore just hit it?

I don't think any HDD company makes a 250GB 7200 rpm drive just yet. The 200 is good start though. When they make the 250GB 7200 rpm I will be in line for one ASAP.

I am going to wait until Jan/Feb when the official upgrade for the MBP comes out. 2.6 isn't enough of a jump from the current models and the graphics cards are a bit dated now, so hopefully there will be a GFX update in the MBP as well. A new case design would be nice too, but upgrading the guts is enough for me.

As for LaCie disks being unreliable... it's all personal opinion and experience. I could say the same for all the Western Digital drives that are sitting on a friend of mines desk, dead and useless, or all of the Hitachi Deathstars that roam about my former college campus and on the internet, but I have had no problems with any of the drives I have used, many of them from Hitachi, a few from Western Digital, and a few from Seagate. Many of them are in LaCie cases and G-Tech cases, stuck inside my MBP and PowerMac G5. All of which have been running constantly for weeks on end only being shut down for long trips away from the machine or updates.
 
If anyone is going to compare the MacBook to a Dell please compare it against the XPS M1330.
Yes, and the Dell costs about $1600.00 ($300 more than the mid MacBook) for a 1.5 GHz core 2 duo Santa Rosa (700MHz slower than the mid MacBook) and the same graphics. However that price does include a 160 GB hard drive (40 GB more than the mid MacBook), and 2 GB's of RAM (twice the RAM than the mid MacBook) included. The MacBook also ships with Leopard and iLife, while the Dell has Vista Home! Yuck!

The option of the 128MB NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS graphic card for $100 extra is the best feature of the Dell.
Well, looks I'm back to waiting until January for a proper MacBook update. :eek:
January? I don't think so. Try April/May.
 
Let's pretend Dell and Apple use the same manufacturers. In this case, I'm doing Apple a favour, since we know it's been using some corean second-rate hardware for years (check the apple cinema display for instance). And also, Apple is known to hide the brand of its hardware. On the contrary, PC manufacturers, especially Dell, practice the glasnost policy. Ever tried to get the brand of your optical drive on your Macbook ? See what i mean then.

NO.... I have no problem at all finding out the hardware on my Mac and many others right out of the box. System Profiler tells you just about everything you need to know. If you need to know more, you can go online (at Apple's website) or open the case yourself.

This statement is simple not true, and Dell and Apple use pretty much the same hardware. Apple isn't short changing anyone.

P.S. You obviously haven't used an ACD. They are over priced and underspec'd compared to others, (including Dell's) but they are still the most color accurate and best looking displays on the market. And the only ones you can get with a very useful FW400 port on the back. I would get any other manufacturer's model if I were on a budget, but if I have the cash, ACD it will be.
 
I concur...

"About this Mac", "More Info", and the Mac shows you everything you want to know.

My optical drive taken right out of "About this Mac":

"MATSHITADVD-R UJ-846" (Note: I tried to bold the letters between "MAT" and "DVD-R" for emphasis on quality, but could not do so without offending the censors. Use your imagination. My apologies to the censors:)
 
Yes, and the Dell costs about $1600.00 ($300 more than the mid MacBook) for a 1.5 GHz core 2 duo Santa Rosa (700MHz slower than the mid MacBook) and the same graphics. However that price does include a 160 GB hard drive (40 GB more than the mid MacBook), and 2 GB's of RAM (twice the RAM than the mid MacBook) included. The MacBook also ships with Leopard and iLife, while the Dell has Vista Home! Yuck!

The option of the 128MB NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS graphic card for $100 extra is the best feature of the Dell.January? I don't think so. Try April/May.

**cheers and applauds***

That is truly the only benefit of the Dell 1330. You can spec to be a MBP contender, that's it, and you will pay MBP prices for it as well. Personally.... the only thing holding a lot of people back from buying the machine over the MB is that it can only run Windows Vista, which sucks according to many PC supporters, or Linux, which doesn't have the backing of Mac OS X and Windows.

When you buy PC, you have to pick your poison.
 
And where do you suggest Apple buy these 2.5" 250GB 7200 rpm disks from?
2.8Ghz penryn should be out in Jan/Feb.
The 2.6Ghz option for the MBP is just there too boost sales a bit for the Xmas season.

you're right 250 currently dont exist..i thought hitachi but no..little wishfull thinking..but 2x160 gb(7200 rpm) exist and could be clever.. ore 320 gb 5400 rpm..
I think it's little slick to demand 250$ extra for the "upgrade" to 2,6..they should be included..But if they should decleare a 2,8 penryn in mackworld it would make some sense..and apple could make more money in the mean time..
don't now about the boost for xmas season, (maybe the mackbook would boost sales)..i dont think 2.6 will change people's heart..2.8 had definitely bin a hit in the Xmas season..But it's just impossible for Apple to doe so..because of the penryn comes to late to make it hapend....I think the dell's does it big this xmas..And the design in macbook/pro are indeed little boring...
 
Customizing the MB Pro to the 200GB/7200 RPM drive delays the shipment ridiculously by 2-3 weeks.

Isn't it amazing how they know how to discourage those (like me) who have just received a machine with a 160GB/7200RPM drive from calling Apple and asking for a replacement? (This seems the only reasonable explanation for the delay -- there are certainly plenty of drives in stock already!)

2-3 weeks is a long time for working people and, besides, in a month from today there will already be discussion about the MB Pro updates at Macworld in January
 
I don't think any HDD company makes a 250GB 7200 rpm drive just yet. The 200 is good start though. When they make the 250GB 7200 rpm I will be in line for one ASAP.

I am going to wait until Jan/Feb when the official upgrade for the MBP comes out. 2.6 isn't enough of a jump from the current models and the graphics cards are a bit dated now, so hopefully there will be a GFX update in the MBP as well. A new case design would be nice too, but upgrading the guts is enough for me.

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Yes the 2.6 upgrade was indeed lame...a new case design in the 2,8 would be cool ..-so you can distinct them from eachother(the great vs the ugly:cool:)-..the new breed of macbook pro with a blueray burner.2,8 penryn with the option to clock:confused: it..
More Hard-disc option..bether graphic-card..led screen..and a radically changed design(??).::D
 
I think the dell's does it big this xmas..And the design in macbook/pro are indeed little boring...

You think so?
I'm by no means an Apple fanboy, but I do think that Leopard (although it's far from perfect) is the best OS for desktops/laptops.
More and more people are taking notice of it and are buying Apple hardware.
In my opinion the design of the MBP is great, and as far as I'm concerned they stick with it for another 5 yrs.
 
Rip Off Ireland

I just realised how cheap the Macbooks in the US actually are; do you guys realise that the most basic Macbook you can buy in Ireland costs $1515?

That is a shame, but I'm not surprised. I spent some time in Ireland in the past for work and can say that from the economic standpoint I have to wonder how you people do it. Everything was more expensive in Ireland. Heck the stuff in the Waterford Crystal plant was more expensive than it needed to be.

In the same way that I found things expensive, when the Irish guys where in the US to visit our plant they always came with a little extra cash to update their electronics collections. The pricing differences even after exchange rate issues of the time where dramatic. I don't know what the problem is but in the case of cameras both items get imported in to our countries. Maybe you guys need a few Walmarts and Best Buys!!

In Ireland there is a reliance on the small business owner to deliver goods and services. Often they do so with little competition. The problem is this is not a good model to deliver mass produced commodities. Add in European tax structures and you are pretty much screwed.

Dave
 
It’s almost an anti climax now the updates are here. My general realistic expectations have been filled, however how they deem fit to put still to include a combo drive in the base model is beyond me. Also the price of the black book remains at a premium, why can’t they offer a choice of black or white for each configuration??? I am in the UK btw so the update has not officially yet to appear on the site.

Now the Macbook has been updated what are the chances it will get another update at Macworld?

Also I know the MBP is supposed to be updated but at Macworld but what kind of update should we expected to see? How much of improved will it be over the current MBP?

I am not sure to jump now and get one or wait that little bit longer till Macworld as I have been waiting so long anyway. A generous revision to the MBP would be something to seriously get excited about.
 
:eek: But what about MacWorld?
What about it? If Apple releases a new consumer portable in January, then that will be a first. I am expecting other releases. Maybe there will be a new pro portable release, or a smaller than 13 inch portable announcement, but these refreshed MacBooks won't see an update in my opinion.
I am feeling I should just swallow my pride and get a BlackBook.. I just really want an Aluminium case :eek:
Maybe that will happen in April/May of next year. Apple normally announces new portable Mac's just prior to Summer when people can take them outdoors and buy them for the new school year ahead, or just before Christmas. I don't expect that to change in January of next year.
 
What other media software is needed? You can also get a free word processing tool which is decent with the Dell. You can also get phone support if you own a Dell. Why do some people feel the need to include Vista Ultimate into comparsions like these?
Most consumers would just opt for Vista Home Premium anyway if they were looking to buy the Dell.

The MB is a nice laptop but it is heavier than the XPS M1330 and it is still all plastic and it still offers no LED or the option of a dedicated graphics card.


Could you quote your source for your price comparison? (Dell, 1,024 $ : Inspiron 1420)

And make sure you add the Unlimited version of Vista (unlimited version of Leopard ships with the Macbook).
You also forgot the integrated bluetooth module (included with the mac).
And the remote.
And the webcam.
And the 30 day phone support.
And the media software bundle...

The cheapest I could get is $1,241 for the 2.0 core 2 duo model (without the media software, with 1 year warranty and after the $300 instant rebate).
 
but . . .

As of right now, it looks like Apple hasn't changed their pricing in the Canada Store to reflect the strong Canadian Dollar. I call B.S. on that one.

Here is what I mean:

U.S. Store Prices for the three new MacBooks:
US Prices............ In Canadian Dollars after conversion:
$1099 USD............ $1039.22 CAD
$1299 USD............ $1228.34 CAD
$1499 USD............ $1417.46 CAD

Canadian Store Prices:
$1249
$1449
$1649

And let's not forget sales tax- in Canada, we're talking 14% tax on top of those high Canadian prices. If I take a quick drive down to Buffalo, NY, I can pay the U.S. price and only approximately 8% sales tax. Even if I have to declare the MacBook at the border, the duty fees I would have to pay would not come close to the more than $200 difference (over $320 difference including taxes). Oh, the cost of gas would only be around $50-60 to drive there and back, so it's still a big savings.

When Leopard was released, Apple priced it competitively in Canada to the US price, at $129 CAD. I expected them to do the same with the MacBook, considering our dollar is stronger than the U.S. and is still going up. I think that they've dropped the ball here. The price differences between products in Canada vs. the U.S. is a big story right now in Canada, and it's only a matter of time before this story appears on the news.

Guess where I'll be driving in the next couple of weeks? At least I'll be able to eat at The Cheesecake Factory.....

Still, Apple isn't the only reatailer whose prizes aren't as fluid as the monetary exchange rates. Could be cool for some consumers, but chaotic for the book balancers of many companies.

On a side note . . . DAMN!!! Long gone are the days when we in the US could count on at least the CAD to be worth less than the USD. Soon you'll be like the British, coming to the US for the "All-American Half Price Sale!" :):):)
 
Sounds like a stupid question but how do I make sure I'm getting the SR chipset on the macbook I order online. I asked a chick on the apple chat website thing and she wouldn't confirm anything. Or are all the macbooks being sold online now coming with SR.
I ordered one this morning at 9:50 EDT (-5 GMT) and it was the Santa Rosa model.

Yes, and the Dell costs about $1600.00 ($300 more than the mid MacBook) for a 1.5 GHz core 2 duo Santa Rosa (700MHz slower than the mid MacBook) and the same graphics. However that price does include a 160 GB hard drive (40 GB more than the mid MacBook), and 2 GB's of RAM (twice the RAM than the mid MacBook) included. The MacBook also ships with Leopard and iLife, while the Dell has Vista Home! Yuck!

The option of the 128MB NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS graphic card for $100 extra is the best feature of the Dell.January? I don't think so. Try April/May.
Thank you for proving my point. :rolleyes:

It's nice to get someone else to do the work.
 
You think so?
I'm by no means an Apple fanboy, but I do think that Leopard (although it's far from perfect) is the best OS for desktops/laptops.
More and more people are taking notice of it and are buying Apple hardware.
In my opinion the design of the MBP is great, and as far as I'm concerned they stick with it for another 5 yrs.

can't argue with the leopard(even though theres bin problems with the firewall(quote:1.i turns off when you install it.2."block all" dont block all.3.hide firwall rules in a black box the user can acces and a trojan coming.. http://www.intego.com/news/ism0705.asp)
But thats normal.
I think the design in mackbook pro are ok..But it would be cool with a new design...yeah maybe they stick with it 5 years..that would be boring..
 
haha... I was going to go pick up my new macbook today after waiting a couple months of waiting.So I get online to check the number to call the apple store to see if the have the new macbooks in stock, but the website says the apple store close to my house is closed for renovations from October 29 - Nov 2 :mad:

There are two other apple stores 30 minutes from my house, but that is in normal traffic. You don't want to be around those areas at 5pm on a weekday.......Atlanta traffic is no joke.

Looks like I'll have to wait just a little longer to switch over to a macbook :cool:
 
We probably wont see prices come down here in Canada for some time now. Many retailers view the current economic situation as "unstable", and I have to agree. You can't just instantly change prices when, historically, the Canadian dollar has been less value compared to the US.

That said, I wish they'd do it already!!!!
 
Sounds like a stupid question but how do I make sure I'm getting the SR chipset on the macbook I order online.

Further to Eidorian's point, the label on the box will also show the new chipset listed, so you will be able to tell before you open the box. At least it does on the 2.2 GHz MB one I just picked up today from the local Apple Store.
 
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