I honestly don't care which is a "better" value. I am simply rejecting any conclusion that one computer is a "better" value using an imcomplete and blind comparison based on "specs".
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I honestly don't care which is a "better" value. I am simply rejecting any conclusion that one computer is a "better" value using an imcomplete and blind comparison based on "specs".
Specs are here to stay, dude. They're like facts. You can't beat a fact. Otherwise, you're just another sheep to the Apple herd.
This is the update! Crap... I was hoping a redesign... Now I either have to wait another few months or so for a redesign or be happy buying a.. white macbook...
We have to create a "patient community" here... and wait all together instead of flaming each other...
Um, not a good point to make. Isn't it widely publicized that pretty much 90-95 percent of the population have an IQ just slightly above mentally handicapped?
Moving on... Dude, please, get the hell out. I mean, really why are you even here? You aren't making a good point, and you seem to just want to antagonize the regular posters on the board. Given your newbie status I can't believe no one has yelled "TROLL!" yet. Oh look, I just did.
Go price a MacPro and a Dell Tower with the same specs.
And yeah, Apple specs are *****, thats why a MacBook Pro was voted the fastest windows machine. Ha.
And yes, aesthetics DO matter. Aesthetics go hand in hand with ergonomics.
Someone using a tool or working in an environment that is both ergonomic and aesthetic is generally more productive than someone who only functions with one of those in place.
i have no idea about hacintoshs. but the >>Asus P5K>C2D E6600@3.8GHz is strange. how can you have 3.8GHz?
also you say you don't support piracy. does that mean you can install OS X from the original DVD or do you need a hacked version from a bit torrent site?
what about OS X updates? are they working or do you have to tweak that every time a software update is out?
I overclocked my E6600 from 2.4GHz to 3.8GHz with my Big Typhoon II.
No, I did not install from the original DVD. I created my own. That should be considered fair use though.
And with software updates, I install security updates from Software update fine, however I have to install dot releases manually with pacifist.
Wow, that made me chuckle lol. Most of the LaCie drives I worked on were Maxtor models (which is now owned by Seagate) and Samsung. Western Digital did manufacture some drives and parts for LaCie years ago, but due to the incorporation of LaCie drive parts found that their drives weren't functioning properly in accordance with their quality standards and broke or refused to renew their contract with LaCie.
Interesting story though (and sorry for your troubles, nothing sucks more than a drive crashing). My photographer friend had his LaCie drive crash a few months ago with all his nieces' wedding photographs on it. I was able to recover 75-80% of the photographs using Data Rescue II and some work, highly recommend that program.
Yeah, iWork. It's cheaper and '08 is getting better reviews than beta Office '08. Go figure.
Beware, you're becoming sarcastic, that means you're a troll.
Best way of defense the Apple sect has found against outsiders.
Do it yourself. I already did my homework.
Voted ? By whom ? Macrumors.com ?
Agree at 100%. That's why I'm getting a Macbook in January. I never said aestethics weren't important.
memory
Have you guys noticed that the new MBPs have 2GB memory standard now?
This I think is pretty cool, and a nice improvement to those who wish to buy an MBP. But, I was waiting to get a nice 24" AL iMac after the leopard release, and the iMac still come with a standard 1GB memory.
Frankly, I am little surprised that the desktops come with 1GB, while the desktop replacements come with 2GB. Hmm.
Have you guys noticed that the new MBPs have 2GB memory standard now?
This I think is pretty cool, and a nice improvement to those who wish to buy an MBP. But, I was waiting to get a nice 24" AL iMac after the leopard release, and the iMac still come with a standard 1GB memory.
Frankly, I am little surprised that the desktops come with 1GB, while the desktop replacements come with 2GB. Hmm.
Hey,
I agree with Prof. and bj3949... I think there will be an announcement on Macbooks at MacWorld. I mean really, what would Apple announce otherwise? New iPhone? No. New iPod Touch? No. New Nano? No. Just a few of many things that have been recently updated. MacWorld would be bunk otherwise... The Macbook is just begging to go to the aluminum design. I know many of you are not happy with aluminum but all their products are going that route and it only seems inevitable that this passes over to the Macbook. Apple likes their products to be alike and distinctive and they will definitely achieve this with an aluminum Macbook. I think I'll wait till January and PRAY they redesign them...
Mitch
I agree with Prof. and bj3949... I think there will be an announcement on Macbooks at MacWorld. I mean really, what would Apple announce otherwise? New iPhone? No. New iPod Touch? No. New Nano? No. Just a few of many things that have been recently updated. MacWorld would be bunk otherwise... The Macbook is just begging to go to the aluminum design. I know many of you are not happy with aluminum but all their products are going that route and it only seems inevitable that this passes over to the Macbook. Apple likes their products to be alike and distinctive and they will definitely achieve this with an aluminum Macbook. I think I'll wait till January and PRAY they redesign them...
Mitch
Typical knee-jerk contrarianism.
Either that, or you're stupid enough to think your experience is the same as everyone else's, because it's certainly a truism that it's hardware plus software that determines how usable a personal computer is (In a way, Apple won the computing wars, because the GUI is a reflection of the hardware/software combination).
Part of that total control that Apple practices leads from that---they want to insure that the product "just works" and that control "mania" springs from that (total control of hardware and software certainly means less uncertainty and wonkinees for the end user if you do your job right). That doesn't work for you--which is fine and dandy. But for a lot of folks, that doesn't matter---they want a stylish product that works well. It's not an inferior attitude; it just means they don't want to spend their time messing with the particular product they're buying.
The software on a Mac rates well in both quantity, and quality, from the OS through to the included software. Some PCs have the quantity, yes. Quality. Hahaha.
Office? It's on the Mac, but you're mad if you use PowerPoint ahead of Keynote. I've seen people using Photoshop, Illustrator, Eclipse, VI, Crystal Reports, etc, for serious work you know, we're not all red-stapler-owning Excel/Word drones.
But as you are deliberately avoiding understanding any of these points that me and other people are making, just don't bother replying, eh?
If Apple releases a new consumer portable in January, then that will be a first. I don't expect the MacBook to be touched again until May next year now.
I used Appleworks and TextEdit for undergrad, OpenOffice for Grad school, and now I use iWork. I kept Powerpoint installed for those times when I absolutely had to use Powerpoint in school, but since I am a slide-support minimalist in presentations, the four slides I needed I could do in photoshop.
Now I have Keynote, don't use that either. Excel is the only Microsoft product I would, today, consider maybe buying. But I haven't given Numbers a fair shake yet, because when it comes down to it, I don't really need either.
http://www.macfixit.com/article.php?story=20071101102750141
A problem to take seriously, or will be fixed in software?
A problem to take seriously, or will be fixed in software?
Maybe a new MacBook will be announced in April/May, but I doubt it will be any sooner than that. MacBook sales are huge with the current form factor, and Apple will hang on to that for longer than January in my opinion after releasing these updates today.
ok.go to sleep for 190 days ore something..average upgrade for macbook pro..
zzzzzzzzzYou really have no idea what you are talking about do you. Lets do the comparison.
Mid MacBook - $1299
Dell XPS M1330 (the only Dell that compares to a MacBook)
Add a 2.2GHz processor, Bluetooth, Wireless N card, 56 W/hr battery so you get a comparable machine.
$1449 Total
And that doesnt take into account iLife and Leopard which make the MacBook more attractive.
Face the facts indeed.
Wow, what the hell happened to this thread, it just seems to be a giant useless pile of trolling. Did the mods all take the day off or what?
You need a hacked DVD...but you can create one by appliying a patch to a disk you own. osx86 necessitates violating the user agreement, but it doesn't require piracy.
You need a hacked DVD...but you can create one by appliying a patch to a disk you own. osx86 necessitates violating the user agreement, but it doesn't require piracy.
Well, I have my winner here. Way to go, dude ! Macs are cheaper than PCs : this should be a new commercial running on all channels and networks. I wonder why the Apple commercial guys didn't think about this idea already ???
Quote your sources please... serious talk only with non-troll arguments please...
https://www.macrumors.com/2007/09/18/mac-office-2008-preview/
Read that thread. The Microsoft site doesn't even run well, and the "ribbon" in Office '08 is getting bad reviews. Talk to Macrumors member "nadyne", as they work for Microsoft in the Mac division. It may enlighten you in regards to Office 2008 for Mac.
I have Microsoft Office 2004 for Mac. It doesnt read or write Microsoft Office 2007s native OOXML files. Microsoft Office 2008 for Mac wont be out until January 2008. It wont support Office macros. I dont use Entourage. So, that means all I really use is Word, Excel, and PowerPoint.
Apple iWork 08 is available now and can read/write Office 2007 files. It has a word processor, spreadsheet, and presentation app. It costs $79 compared to Office 2008's pricing of $149.95 for Home and Student Edition, and $399.95 for Standard.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/360212/
iWork '08 reviews:
http://review.zdnet.com/business-productivity/apple-iwork-08/4505-3515_16-32564562.html
and an article that criticizes iWork '08 yet counters the criticism with valid points:
http://www.macdailynews.com/index.p...rk_08_elegant_but_wimpy_compared_with_office/
Bottom line, for a product that has first time applications for Apple (such as "Numbers", Apple's response to "Excel"), it does an excellent job in giving Microsoft a run for its money.
Now, see, there is a response that doesn't have sarcasm or trolling. It's not difficult to have a discussion when you have points.