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Doubtful. If Haswell is viable in the summer, Apple has every reason in the world to update the processors in time for the back to school rush. Having outdated MacBook's (especially their flagships) during such a big time in the year for computer sales, is not something Apple will do just because they bumped their processor's clock speeds up a little bit in mid February.

I agree. I think Apple is ramping up its refresh/release schedule. I don't see why Apple wouldn't be first in line for the Haswell chips when they come out in the summer.
 
This is epic.
I nearly bought a refurbished high end cMBP. But something told me to wait. So I did.
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This move was very unlike apple, I wonder what drove them to do it.

Three big motivators in increase order of impact.


1. I don't think the iMac production is going to catch up to the demand in a single quarter. So it won't hurt to goose units numbers by 100k or so.

2. This helps communicate the message 'we may cancel the classic MacBook Pros" this year to the folks that don't drink a daily/weekly dose of the rumors sites. The cMBP 15" going to one, but more configurable, product offering is a clear message.

the MBA 13" having to move to stay out of the way of the rMBP 13" may also be a message. The MBP 13" didn't have any adjustments. Either it is holding its own (maybe Apple merges MBA and rMBP ) or Apple stopped putting any effort into it. Either way.... change is coming. One of the two MBA 13" or MBP 13" is likely going to see retirement this year.

3. Apple isn't going to launch new Haswell MBPs until after 10.9 launches. This way there are fewer "Mac is dead" threads when WWDC comes and goes and there are no new MBPs ( maybe no new MBA either ). Haswell is late (relative to suggestive roadmaps of a year ago). That means Apple pragmatically needs to slide the release date out for their products based on it as well.

The rMBP 13 in particular could highly leverage the GT3 graphics of Haswell which aren't launching right away with the rest of the Haswell line-up. They aren't due till Q3 ( http://www.cpu-world.com/news_2013/2013012702_Haswell_GT3_graphics_to_launch_in_Q3_2013.html )



Im also very impressed that they lowered the prices on the 13" rMBP.

Adjustments of $100 wouldn't have been surprising. That closed the gap entirely probably means they are very confident the any ramping production issue is under control and well understood now.
 
well I just got one from Amazon on Jan 28th I contacted Amazon and they said I can return for a refund to purchase the new one but its not even available on Amazon yet... Hopefully its available before Feb 28th :)
 
Were they to begin with? When I went to get my wife an Air I wanted 13" 8GB, but they only stocked 4GB.

Every "standard configuration" model goes to the retail stores. The 'good, better , best ' models will be on display and for sale. They may be temporarily sold out but the store generally stock some of each of the default configurations. [ some much slower selling stuff like upper end Mac Pro standard configs probably aren't but more mainstream stuff is. ]

There is no standard configuration MBA 13" 8GB. Both of the default configs come with 4GB. The standard variance that the stores carry is 128GB vs 256GB of SSD storage.


if a certain BTO option happens frequently they may stock a few of those if have track record or expectation may sell them at a decent rate. For example there used to often be some Antiglare cMBP 15" models in stock similar to the representative example on display in the store. Everything on the tables to "Play with" is typically stocked and for sale. What you see is what you can buy.
 
I am on my last day of my 14 day window today. I ordered a rMBP 13" 2.5/8/128 refurbished through the education store for $1439. It seems that the same model is still $1439, but with a 256gb SSD it is $80 less.

Would I even be able to return a refurbished product? If so, would I get a discount or an upgrade to the 256gb? I'd take either, really, if Apple is offering it. If not, no worries.
 
This accounts for the discontinued 2.5 GHz configuration.

During the 10% open box promo, I bought a MacBook Pro with Retina Display 13 2.5 128 open box at Best Buy for $1250 before tax. For another $109, I get double the memory (256), which is a steal!

I checked the SF Bay Area Best Buy online website for clearance / open box 13 2.5 256, but only saw that Union City, California had a "good" condition for $1560. I doubt they'd be able to meet or beat Apple's $1359 refurb price. (Union City also shows an open box 13 2.5 128 for $1300, but I doubt they'd drop the price any further despite Apple's price drop to $1500 from $1700.)

Most online retailers--Amazon, Best Buy--seem to only discount the brand new 13 2.5 256 by $100 to $1900 from $2000 to account for the the new model's 100 MHz speed bump. B&H discounted by $120 to $1880.

The discontinued config Apple refurb 13 2.5 256 is a really great deal!

wait, am I missing something here. Why is the larger SSD cheaper?

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Would I even be able to return a refurbished product? If so, would I get a discount or an upgrade to the 256gb? I'd take either, really, if Apple is offering it. If not, no worries.

Apple doesn't dynamically adjust refurb prices to undercut new. The refurb discount is always relative to the original price that Apple sold that specific model at. The discount gets bigger as the refurb is an older, discontinued model.

So there can be a bubble where the new models that got a bigger cut are now lower than a refurb. Apple isn't concerned about that. Over time the refurb will go out the door. They aren't doing to do 'Crazy Eddie' pricing just to move refurb unit numbers for the current week or month.
 
Apple doesn't dynamically adjust refurb prices to undercut new. The refurb discount is always relative to the original price that Apple sold that specific model at. The discount gets bigger as the refurb is an older, discontinued model.

So there can be a bubble where the new models that got a bigger cut are now lower than a refurb. Apple isn't concerned about that. Over time the refurb will go out the door. They aren't doing to do 'Crazy Eddie' pricing just to move refurb unit numbers for the current week or month.

So you're saying that refurbished products cannot be returned nor a refund issued within the "recently purchased" timeframe due to the models having been upgraded?
 
Nice! - The 13" MBP w/ Retina now costs £1249 from the Apple UK Store.
Does anybody know how much of a reduction this is?

Has the price been reflected across all markets?

Thanks!
 
So you're saying that refurbished products cannot be returned nor a refund issued within the "recently purchased" timeframe due to the models having been upgraded?

You can certainly get a refund if you're within 14 days. Have you given Apple a call to discuss your options?
 
You can certainly get a refund if you're within 14 days. Have you given Apple a call to discuss your options?

I haven't yet, since the price hasn't changed on the model I bought. But the same model with a 256 instead of 128 is now $80 cheaper.

Alright, I get it, I should call Apple! :D
 
FML! I ordered a rMBP this morning :(

15", 16GB, 2.6Ghz i7 upgrade. If I made the same order now I would get a 2.7Ghz i7 for the same price..

Is it really worth the effort to change it? Should I cancel/change the order?

EDIT: Just checked my order status on the apple website, and they've automatically changed it to the 2.7Ghz version.. Typical though
 
Bought a refurbished 15" few weeks back and saw that the price went down by ~90 bucks for the base model and Apple happily credited me so just FYI to those who bought a refurb recently
 
Apple doesn't dynamically adjust refurb prices to undercut new. The refurb discount is always relative to the original price that Apple sold that specific model at. The discount gets bigger as the refurb is an older, discontinued model.

So there can be a bubble where the new models that got a bigger cut are now lower than a refurb. Apple isn't concerned about that. Over time the refurb will go out the door. They aren't doing to do 'Crazy Eddie' pricing just to move refurb unit numbers for the current week or month.

Sorry, but you are wrong. Just last week, I bought a Refurb MPBr 13 i7/8/512 for $2289. After I say the price drop, I checked the Refurb section. My exact same model has now dropped to $1779. (The new equivilent is around $1999 now.)

If Apple didn't adjust the pricing on refurbs based on current model pricing, they woudl never sell the Refurbs. I seriously considered returing mine for the new model, but Apple came through and issued me a $510 refund.
 
So you're saying that refurbished products cannot be returned nor a refund issued within the "recently purchased" timeframe due to the models having been upgraded?

I suspect they are be returned like any product. Unless there was something clearly presented during the purchase they are likley under standard store policy coverage.

It seemed like you were suggesting that the refurb should get a discount because there are other products with new and perhaps lower prices in the store (new or other refurbs). That is not what they generally do.

If you trade-in the refurb and use that credit to get something else that is something different than a "discount".

There is a standard store policy that if a new model comes out you can trade up for free. But I'm not sure that applies to refurbs. That is a courtesy because Apple doesn't announce future products. The refurb is known to be a former product. That Apple is going to release something that supersedes it has already happened.
 
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