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Apple Updates Website to Highlight Removal of Apple Watch Blood Oxygen Feature
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This is what happen in a country where patent troll are ruling (even if they aren’t, they acting like one here). Apple didn’t “poach” employees. They just offered better terms. Employees don’t belong to an employer. They are free to move as they wish
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It would seem that all apple is doing is invalidating the O2 APP on the devices now sold going forward in the USA. I’m sure they did not re-engineer the device without the red light sensor. WAY too much engineering. And, since all watches sold NOT in the USA will continue to “have” the O2 sensor AND APP ACCESS, it would seem that they are going to deprecate the APP ACCESS for watches with certain S/N, or users in USA?
It’s a bit of a software update management MESS, but not untenable. and, for apple at least, at some point if they can win in court or work out a deal with Massimo, then they can simply re-enable it with an update.
So what you are trying to say is Apple will utilise its way bigger coffer to choke out and kill Masimo should patents involved in this debacle be deemed invalid?
I agree, when it is a patent troll I am glad when they are defeated in court, but Massimo and Qualcomm are far from it.
The ITC ruling only affects imports, not what is already here. The affected watches wouldn't even be banned if they were manufactured in the USA.
Companies set prices based on what they think the customer will pay and provide the desired margin. If customers balk they can lower prices, if not there is no business reason to lower them.
Until the appeals are completed, all the way to the highest court, the courts have not fully decided. One court yes, another court no, and so on up the court food chain. There have been many cases where a higher court disagreed with a lower court and a finding was reversed.
For us mere mortals a lower court, as in "Bucky" the town lawyer, volunteer firefighter, school crossing guard and part time court judge, that is about as high as we get. For companies with billions they can move up the chain of courts.
No, update as normal. For now. Who knows what will happen in the future. If Apple were to retroactively remove a feature there would be screams from millions of people. I don't see that happening and reports indicate this will not happen.
So why bother with issuing a new part number then? Which means replacing the whole existing inventory and boxes? Couldn't they simply check based on the date of first activation of the watch S/N with Apple Servers?
By inferring on this logic, I'm guessing if you're doing a bit of digging at a Best Buy & al. today, you can find some 'old' Ultra/S9 boxes without the LW/A?
How do you figure this to be ruinous to Masimo? Masimo is a company primarily focused on selling medical grade monitors to hospitals and their SpO2 technology is second to none. I should know - I have used it extensively in my practice. They also have some very good emerging technology such as SpHb which allows for monitoring of hemoglobin levels (aka blood count level) in real time, incredibly useful during surgical cases. Any wearable device they have produced is at best a hobby currently and in no way competition to the Apple Watch. Masimo will be just fine. Apple should probably pay up and license their technology legally.
All I am saying is that this battle is far from over, and said ban, even if it is upheld, is not the death knell for the Apple Watch that so many people here are making it out to be.
You can't do this with the watch since there is no port. It has already been mentioned in other articles that Apple is shipping a modified version to the USA. The software is likely checking to see what hardware version it's running on.
Predicting one of there possible futures for this. One, a settled amount and a reinstatement of the functionality. Two, a software update that moves far away enough from the patent that it becomes gray area and allowed. Or three, ultimately Apple will work around the technology with their own method of reading, revolutionize the practice out of spite, and patent what they develop lol. Number 2 is not likely or we would have seen it. This will get interesting for sure.
Agree 100%. Any time another company has tried to block Apple, they simply reinvent the wheel and often do it better (and with their own patents). I mean, look at all the competitors chasing the M series of Apple Silicon. Many are trying to keep up with M1/M2, and meanwhile we hear rumors of M5, M6, etc. The doom and gloom makes me laugh. Always an up and down cycle and we are all just passengers on the roller coaster.
You may think it’s stupid but according to what I have read from trusted pundits Apple sincerely thinks it has been shafted by the ITC and the patent lawsuit brought by Masimo. Apparently, Apple is willing to fight to the bitter end on this. They fought Qualcomm to the bitter end before entering an agreement. They fought Epic to the bitter end and won 9 out 10 claims.
History tells us that patent fights can be long and expensive. There was a huge patent fight over who invented the telephone. Alexander Graham Bell eventually won but many thought the other guy, Elisha Gray, had valid arguments. That case went to the Supreme Court in 1888 to be settled. I suspect they will be willing to go all the way too.
Finally, let’s say they wind up licensing from Masimo and up the price to cover the cost of that license. These forums will explode with rage.
Reputation? Pfffft. That only matters in tech blog comment forums. I remind you of all the so-called “gates” that were supposed to take their reputation down. Again, didn’t happen in the real world, just tech blog forums.
Masimo is not a patent troll but they are acting like one here… Apple is not a competitor in their field
It's the same watch; it is no different than when they turn features on in other countries at different times.