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Dude.. I'm not inventing problems. If I was indeed inventing them, then why would they replace everything?? The only reason why I would want to get a different model is because the 13" that I have is failing and I want piece of mind that my future laptop will not be lke this. It's apple apologists like you that makes apple rich. If I have a problem I'm going to get it resolved, not just think it is supposed to be like that. I don't know what you would do but I can tell you that I will not just say "its ok!! Apple knows best"
Read through my post history before you accuse me of being an 'Apple apologist'. I'm certainly one of the only active members on these forums that isn't an apologist for Apple. I think it's a good company with good products which I support, but I think a lot of people are also abusive towards the very forgiving replacement/warranty system.

Edit: In addition, my problem was with your comments saying you wanted it replaced with a different model. I personally feel that the Apple warranty system is far too generous; it would stop people abusing it if the system was replaced with a like-for-like model from the same generation.
 
i love my computer and all, buuuut i think it is unreliable... i have a 13" MBP. i had 3 repairs since i first bought it in july. in about 5 months.... 3 repairs.... THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE!! 1 logic board replaced 3 months into having it because it was "half fried" (if that makes any sense.. but that's what the genius said) 1 fan replacement about the same time as logic board. 1 audio component replaced 1 week after the logic board because it also somehow got fried... NOW MY SUPERDRIVE MAKES FUNNY NOISES WHEN I PUT IN CDS AND DVDS!! what the hell??!! i mean COME ON!!! WHERE IS THE QUALITY?! granted, they repaired everything for free, but that's ridiculous!! i wanna complain my way into getting a 15 inch MBP instead!
You've only had one major repair and it doesn't really sound like your optical drive is broken. The fact that you want them to give you a more expensive computer when you would still probably need three more major repairs seems a bit excessive. Plenty of people on this board have gone through far worse scenarios than that and have still walked away without the option of a replacement.
 
You've only had one major repair and it doesn't really sound like your optical drive is broken. The fact that you want them to give you a more expensive computer when you would still probably need three more major repairs seems a bit excessive. Plenty of people on this board have gone through far worse scenarios than that and have still walked away without the option of a replacement.

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What would you do??

Ok well what would YOU do if you were in my position? Brand new computer... Major repair in 3 months???? That's absurd! That's like buying a brand new Benz and your car breaks down 3 months in. They fix the engine and then your speakers stop working. They fix it. Then the air conditioning stops working. They fix that too. THEN THE CD PLAYER STARTS MAKING FUNNY NOISES! Tell me... WHAT WOULD YOU DO? Would you feel good about that model even if they fixed it for you 3 times? Would you not agree that apple is a premium brand? What about the Benz? If I pay premium price, I expect premium quality. Now I didnt mean that they should just GIVE ME the higher model. I'm saying that I should be able to upgrade to it. Meaning that I PAY the difference. It would be foolish of me to expect them to upgrade me to a middle 15 inch from a base 13 inch free of charge.

ONLY one major repair 3 months into having the computer? Psssh Give me a BREAK
 
Ok well what would YOU do if you were in my position? Brand new computer... Major repair in 3 months???? That's absurd! That's like buying a brand new Benz and your car breaks down 3 months in. They fix the engine and then your speakers stop working. They fix it. Then the air conditioning stops working. They fix that too. THEN THE CD PLAYER STARTS MAKING FUNNY NOISES! Tell me... WHAT WOULD YOU DO? Would you feel good about that model even if they fixed it for you 3 times? Would you not agree that apple is a premium brand? What about the Benz? If I pay premium price, I expect premium quality. Now I didnt mean that they should just GIVE ME the higher model. I'm saying that I should be able to upgrade to it. Meaning that I PAY the difference. It would be foolish of me to expect them to upgrade me to a middle 15 inch from a base 13 inch free of charge.

ONLY one major repair 3 months into having the computer? Psssh Give me a BREAK

They used to allow a paid upgrade on replacements until about 18 months ago, but too many people abused the system so it went away.
 
Edit: In addition, my problem was with your comments saying you wanted it replaced with a different model. I personally feel that the Apple warranty system is far too generous; it would stop people abusing it if the system was replaced with a like-for-like model from the same generation.
When I got mine replaced, I didn't ask for one, or imply one. In fact when he said he would give me a new computer i was reluctant because i need fw, and he said it was fine and they'll give me a 13" MBP. I didn't badger for it. My point is there i walked into the store wanting a repair, not a replacement. I wouldn't say that's abusive. BTW, I paid $1299 for my white macbook when it was new, the new plastic macbooks are $999 and the model i received costs $1199.
 
17 parts replaced, and you're happy? :confused: good googly, if i had that many repairs it'd be my last friggin mac. :mad:

i've never had that many PC parts failed in my life. i dunno about some of the apple fan base but i do not take anything positive out of your situation; when i purchase something i expect it to work (yes, i know parts fail) and not see support for the life of the product! (within reason).

in the 15+ years I've owned, built and used computers, I've replaced more hard drives than that, all on windows based PCs. I've also had the pleasure of numerous video cards, motherboards, ram modules and power supplies failing.

In the 4 years of owning a mac, I've had 6 repairs, all to the same laptop. The 6th repair netted me a brand new up to date computer, right as the original was coming to the end of it's AppleCare.

All of my repairs were for different issues, but since the bulk of a laptop is contained on the main logic board, it had the logic board replaced twice prior to Apple replacing the system outright, other little things, such as the fan assemblies were minor to me.

I believe in total, my 2006 rev 0 MBP had 23 parts replaced, most simply because Apple chooses to replace them while they've got the system apart.

Every time I had a logic board replacement, they also replaced the keyboard, superdrive and memory modules, along with several cable assemblies, track pads, and other small parts.

I honestly look at them more like mechanics than simple computer repair folks. A good mechanic will replace other parts that he has to remove anyway while doing a major repair. For instance, timing belt services, typically will include a new water pump and new serpentine belts, because a mechanic has to remove them to change the timing belt, so why do the labor twice should one fail shortly down the road?

if they upgrade to arrandale withing 14 days they should let you exchange it for the new version. i bought mine in late may and in early june they came out with the 09s and they let me exchange and gave me 26 dollars back because of the price drop.

You cannot exchange a warranty replacement computer. You can however buy AppleCare for it. There is a difference between what rights you have when purchasing, and what rights you have when Apple chooses to replace your unit.

Ok well what would YOU do if you were in my position? Brand new computer... Major repair in 3 months???? That's absurd! That's like buying a brand new Benz and your car breaks down 3 months in. They fix the engine and then your speakers stop working. They fix it. Then the air conditioning stops working. They fix that too. THEN THE CD PLAYER STARTS MAKING FUNNY NOISES! Tell me... WHAT WOULD YOU DO? Would you feel good about that model even if they fixed it for you 3 times? Would you not agree that apple is a premium brand? What about the Benz? If I pay premium price, I expect premium quality. Now I didnt mean that they should just GIVE ME the higher model. I'm saying that I should be able to upgrade to it. Meaning that I PAY the difference. It would be foolish of me to expect them to upgrade me to a middle 15 inch from a base 13 inch free of charge.

ONLY one major repair 3 months into having the computer? Psssh Give me a BREAK

My 2006 Rev 0 MBP had a repair within the first week. The inverter for the LCD backlight failed, and made the screen unusable. It's first logic board replacement came within the first two months. I then experienced almost two years of hassle free use before the next logic board problem (ethernet port failed). It went another 6 months before having issues.

When I got mine replaced, I didn't ask for one, or imply one. In fact when he said he would give me a new computer i was reluctant because i need fw, and he said it was fine and they'll give me a 13" MBP. I didn't badger for it. My point is there i walked into the store wanting a repair, not a replacement. I wouldn't say that's abusive. BTW, I paid $1299 for my white macbook when it was new, the new plastic macbooks are $999 and the model i received costs $1199.

They will replace your computer with the closest one to original purchase cost.

I originally paid $1999 for my first MBP, and they replaced mine with the equivalent $1999 15" MBP, even though my MBP was the "base" model, and there was a newer "base" model.

the difference between $1199 and $1299 is smaller than the difference between $1299 and $999 so I would expect them to give you the base model 13" MBP instead of a uMB.
 
They will replace your computer with the closest one to original purchase cost.

I originally paid $1999 for my first MBP, and they replaced mine with the equivalent $1999 15" MBP, even though my MBP was the "base" model, and there was a newer "base" model.

the difference between $1199 and $1299 is smaller than the difference between $1299 and $999 so I would expect them to give you the base model 13" MBP instead of a uMB.
Yeah, I thought it was fair. The next MBP costs $1499, which would be more than what I paid for initially. Besides, I got a much better computer anyway regardless of what the price was. And the depreciated value of my computer at that point with the condition it was in was probably about $600-$750.
 
Good lord! I am hesitant to upgrade my old PowerBook G4 with reading all the horror stories here. My PB is the most reliable computer I have ever owned and I have had zero issues with it in six years of ownership. I realize that most of these posts are just a sampling of millions of owners but it sounds to me like Apple has gotten away from quality control and that bugs me for the price they charge for their product. Maybe holding onto my PB as a backup would create a safety blanket for me just in case.

I was intent on upgrading to a MBP once the revised ones came out in Q1 of 2010. Not sure now.
 
Same thing happened to me. I had a 17" 2.33GHz MBP (2 generations before unibody, forgot what the proc model was called). Had to get the motherboard replaced 3 times b/c of a bad graphics card. Last time it was in the shop, the genius called me saying that they found other problems w/ it & wondered if they could get me a new one. I was like "Sure! Definitely!" I didn't get my hard drive back (but I had backed up all the important stuff anyways), but I get a 17" 2.5GHz MBP (last generation before unibodies). Pretty sweet.
 
Ok well what would YOU do if you were in my position? Brand new computer... Major repair in 3 months???? That's absurd! That's like buying a brand new Benz and your car breaks down 3 months in. They fix the engine and then your speakers stop working. They fix it. Then the air conditioning stops working. They fix that too. THEN THE CD PLAYER STARTS MAKING FUNNY NOISES! Tell me... WHAT WOULD YOU DO? Would you feel good about that model even if they fixed it for you 3 times?

It would be nice to have a German car that long without anything breaking. But...
 
You timed your Apple Store visit nicely with the Holiday Season :p
Well that's the time when i have off from school! That's the only week I could go without my computer. The reason I went then is because I thought they would end up fixing my old one (which takes a week or so) -- had no idea they would replace it. If I knew they would've replaced it I would have waited for the next refresh.
 
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