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Apple Vision Pro Features 16GB of RAM and Likely Up to 1TB of Storage
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It's runs buttery smooth, even when using 3 apps at the same time. I am not sure how that is a waste. Even so, I'd rather have too much RAM than not enough.
My guess is that:
1) M2 was more than powerful enough for a good experience with VisionOS, with its accompanying R1 chip. M3 would not meaningfully enhance the experience for this initial product launch.
2) They had to lock the specs at some point for manufacturing and M3 prototypes were not fully tested. They have to get this launch right.
So has my Z Fold 3,4,5, Pixel Fold, and now my OnePlus Open. What's your point? None of this changes the fact that I'm not impressed by the AVP coming with 16GB of RAM for $3499, and nothing will.
I’d worry more about the storage than the ram on this device. I mean i work with 64gigs of ram daily on my Mac Studio which i need for running heavy adobe apps but I don’t see such a workflow on the vision. 16 actually sounds Good. I imagined them using 8 like everything else which is ****** for having multiple windows open. The max they could even go on an m2 is 24gb. Really the biggest concern with this device is that it’s not getting the m3 and is already dated…
I completely agree. It is similar to the Pixel Fold launching with the Tensor G2, when the Pixel 8's were launched just a couple of months later with the Tensor G3. It didn't make sense.
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I assumed the whole reason they rushed the m3 chips out this fall was so they could debut this with one
What you see on a display has nothing to do with real multitasking.
iOS is a UNIX system which _is_ able to multitask. Evidently so when you work in an app while being on a phone call, while the App Store updates apps in the background.
Apparently you don't understand what I am talking about. An iPhone/iPad cannot run 3 apps on screen at the same time. That is app multitasking. I'm not talking about background processes. That isn't even close to the same thing. What you see on the display has everything to do with multitasking. What you cannot see on the display has to do with multiple background processes running in parallel.
Would you be impressed after using it and finding out it works perfectly fine with 16GB of ram? Or does it have to have "more" just for the sake of it? Bigger question is what are we building it to do, and how much it needs to do it. I still have yet to hear a complaint about how slow the unit is or how it needs a bit more ram to work right. It's not even available to the public yet.
As a metric to judge it agains. I ran Resident Evil 4 on my M2 Max with 32GB of ram at as high a res as my MBPro supports. FPS was basically capped at 60 no matter the refresh rate settings I put it at. I didn't see the memory usage of the game go over 10GB. Mostly under that and as low as the high 8GB range. 16GB seems plenty for a recently ported game to run natively on Apple Silicon. Even if this M2 in the headset is the base M2. The ram isn't going to be the limiting factor. The M2 chip will be. Maybe it can only run at 30FPS and under that resolution. And with some of the settings lowered. But, the headset should be fine with 16.
This is more of UX design than ability of the device. iPads can run 2 apps on the screen at the same time. And you can put 2 apps in a group. 3 Apps is (IMHO) too much for the size of the screen. I understand Android lets you do this regardless of the device. But in Apple's opinion it's not a good design.
Not crazy at all. All that VR/AR porn is going to need a lot of storage.
I understand what you mean, on iPhone you only see the main window of one single app on screen.
However, what you say is still wrong. When you say "multitasking", you are talking about processes.
Wikipedia
Some apps _are_ running in the background even if you don't see them, and sometimes you actually see them, as items in the status bar or with the latest iPhones, in the Dynamic Island.
What iPhones don't have is a windowing system allowing for multiple apps on screen. This is, however, not multitasking. And it is not a technical shortcoming of the device, but a conscious design decision made by Apple. You don't have to like it. You can choose other devices with different operating systems that fit your need.
But in no way is the lack of multi-window UX design an indication for lack of multitasking, or how much memory a phone should have.
I'm talking about multitasking, as in getting multiple tasks done at the same time. Like watching a SpaceX launch, checking my stocks, and messaging people at the same time on my smartphone. Again, you cannot do this on an iPhone or an iPad. So, when I say multitasking, I'm talking about using 3 apps on screen at the same time, getting multiple tasks done. I never referred to the multitasking your Wikipedia article mentions, except when talking about background processes running in parallel. You are wrong here. It is difficult for me to understand why you can't seem to comprehend this. I'm not trying to be rude here, by the way. I just don't think this should be that difficult to grasp.
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Why is it 3 apps? What size screen (phone) do you use 3 open apps on? What's the resolution of that screen?
On an iPhone you can do PiP (picture in picture). So you can watch a YouTube video or other video while using another application. Say texting or email etc. Again, it's not 3 apps. But, why 3? Maybe on an iPad 3 would be more useful, but even then I have a iPad Pro (smaller one) M2. I can side by side apps if I want to, but for me. One app is how I use it. Since i need to see the whole thing. I can play music on one app and type with another. And switch between open apps to get to another etc. IDK, 3 seems specific and odd (pun) to me as a use case for the screen size given. One would have to have a really high resolution to fit most of what these apps have in the window. Otherwise your scrolling around in it on a small screen.. Not for me. Sorry 😊
You should. They made very good points on post # 111 that would be interesting for you to address when you get a chance.
If I thought they made very good points, I would. It's very admirable that all of you like to jump in for your MR pals. I'm sure they can defend themselves though 😉
Fair enough. Of course, you’re never obligated to reply to anyone. I just thought I’d point out post # 111, in case it got lost in the shuffle.