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Apple Vision Pro is NOT expensive and Not VR device.
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How? As someone in IT who has worked in a lot of companies: nobody uses apple in anything that has any size.
I know some smaller companies (few laptops) or those who seem stuck with then for some software but thats all osx, never ios .
And yet, IBM (a former employer after a takeover) last I saw had 290,000 Apple devices. Another employer I work for gave employees the option (heard that many years ago) and according to my source - majority when Mac (now a large consulting company). Funny, they all went Mac after I left... I am waiting for my most recent one to go Mac -- but it will probably be a while. That said, more individuals buy Mac laptops... iPhones and iPads are reasonably well represented in corporations.
I'm hoping Apple is the company to bring us a social media experience that rivals The OASIS. I wonder if they could do that in the next decade.
Yes, I should have clarified, I was referring to certain professional/creative uses where AR/VR will have revolutionary applications (medical, architecture, realty etc). It won't take the entire business world by storm.
(But then Apple Glasses will slip in the back door like iPhones.)
What kind of company do you consider "any size"?
I work for a tech company that has more than 1000 employees, and all R&D has a choice of either a windows or Apple laptop. Yeah, our IT has to support both windows and OSX. I'm sure we're not the only non-small tech company to do so.
However, I don't see the need for the Vision Pro in our company. Maybe years from now -- we'll see what the future brings.
Would be interesting to know how many employers would feel about staff wearing something like a Vision Pro and having no idea if the person they are paying is working on the Payroll/Inventory spreadsheet/Program etc you are paying them to do, or typing to a naked person on Only Fans.
I could imagine a rule in place where if you are wearing the headset then, you have to have a normal monitor mirroring what you are looking at also at your desk.
Otherwise, the person you are paying to work could be doing absolutely anything
I could imagine a rule in place where if you are wearing the headset then, you have to have a normal monitor mirroring what you are looking at also at your desk.
Otherwise, the person you are paying to work could be doing absolutely anything
I remember the CEO of a company (good company) I worked for saying when questioned why the internet was not monitored effectively, he said we trust our people and we are hiring adults... if you show that you are not one - you will be fired. BTW, replace the scenario with - working from home which is very common these days still (I have done that for 12+ years)... if a company has to keep an eye on you the entire day and does not have the metrics to figure out if you are actually productive or not... then they have a problem anyways. You can effectively do nothing at work already in a standard cubical and get away with it if the employer does not have the metrics...
Funny story, a less enlightened employer that I worked for off and on over the years (before working from home) installed full internet tracking to keep track of how long people used the internet etc. I wrote a small app that basically spent it's time randomly crawling the internet continuously... after the first month I was called into the VPs office and he said... very funny... my statistics say that you browsed the internet an average of 27 hours per business day -- and yet you still managed to get your work done... last I heard of it.
Some here seem to think these devices are going to be used like you say in offices with people sat at desks next to each other. I can’t see this personally as it does what you say, creates a barrier and just discourages open collaboration. With drives to encourage more face to face meetings rather than virtual screen sharing since the pandemic, this device to me is less suited to an office environment and more inline with solo working and recreational use. Is there anything more depressing than the thought of sitting amongst your colleagues with each of us wearing headsets? Hopefully I will be retired by the time it gets to that.
Oh, now that I see what user rank you get (Pentium), I don't want to add 15,000 messages just to go to Intel 🤣
Oh, now that I see what user rank you get (Pentium), I don't want to add 15,000 messages just to go to Intel
I never see the user ranks as I use Tapatalk, it hides all that but I see what you mean on web view lol. I clearly spend too much time here
Yup, exactly. When I worked for a law firm, lawyers had to write briefs, secretaries had to type up forms, translators had to translate documents, IT guys had to make sure computers were running. If at the end of the day or week the work wasn't completed, it was noticeable, lol. On the other hand, if you finished your assigned work early, nobody cared if you goofed off surfing the web until it was time to go home. Come to think of it, the IT guys had the most unstructured time, but if something went wrong they had to stay late until it got fixed. I imagine most other work places are pretty much like this. When there is actual work to be done, there isn't time to do personal stuff, even if no one is actually standing behind you checking to see if you are working.
Isn't Apple trying to avoid that by including that fake eye display thing and showing you people in your environment? Like even if you are in immersion mode, if someone approaches you, they'll "break in" to your environment and you can see and interact with them?
Apple is trying, but again this is not the target market they are working towards, this is an intermediate step... the fake eye visor thing is good enough not to completely cut you off from your environment (but it will act as a barrier), and will really only be useful for short interactions - you know a question or two. More than that and you would likely remove your device... in other words, it is not something that you would typically have when collaborating in the real world - though there should be ways if all of the participants have one to collaborate in the virtual world for longer... in something that creates a shared environment. If they can to a certain extent create a shared environment when someone has a mac another an iPad and others Vision Pros then that wearing of the 'nerd helmet' might be extended a bit...
They are attempting it, but let’s be realistic, it’s not an ideal workaround or substitute for being able to see someone’s face and having a proper unhindered conversation with someone. Eye contact is an important part in communicating and this prevents this element despite a screen reproducing it on the exterior. I doubt we have much to worry about though as I doubt these will ever be used in that sort of environment anyway.
Inevitably there’ll be cheaper versions like all apple stuff
Vision SE etc , in multiple colours ….sizes etc etc
Vision SE etc , in multiple colours ….sizes etc etc
No ipphone took the world by storm, and the problem remains the same: closed apple walled in garden.
It will no doubt find its niche but I dont see it move beyond that until the price and application for it improve.
Inevitable but that does not mean it will be cheap or that it will be soon.
This. People seem to have forgotten that it's taken nearly 40 years (from the Macintosh 128K) to where we are today. In today's dollars, the Macintosh 128K would cost over $7000, but an iMac now starts at $1300 (today).
So, when did desktop Macs start to become "affordable"? If you use the late 90s/early 2000s as an example (14ish years after the Macintosh 128K), a 2000 iMac G3 started around $800, or $1400ish in today's dollars. (It's hard to go earlier as Apple was declining and nearly went into bankruptcy before that.)
It isn’t mentioned for a pretty obvious reason: Ready Player One is not a fun fantasy about an awesome future. It’s a cautionary tale about the drastic negatives of this kind of technology.
Seems a wishful case of if you say it enough times maybe it’ll come true 😂
It’s over 3 grand! That’s expensive for what amounts to a novelty device
And it’s not VR?
Hmm
VR
Totally NOT VR
Yeah don’t trust your lying eyes 😂
It’s over 3 grand! That’s expensive for what amounts to a novelty device
And it’s not VR?
Hmm
VR
Totally NOT VR
Yeah don’t trust your lying eyes 😂
I think you'd be surprised how many companies support iPhone due to sheer employee demand. My employer was a closed PC shop but at least half the staff now have iPhones - that can't be ignored.
And if the AVP offers pro apps that others can't match, companies will buy it.