It is truly amazing how many times some can repeatedly post "This does not interest me!", apparently without realizing the irony of that effort.
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Apple Vision Pro Launches in Two More Countries
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Me too! I’m at a McDonald’s with the Comcast Business Rep, writing proposals and procuring equipment for a couple of upcoming projects, while he’s on his laptop and external display doing his work.
Not funny, when Apple has sold hundreds of thousands of AVPs. Why do some folks think AVP needs to be the next hula hoop fad?
The tech is new but the potential is huge. Apple has given us a peak into the future.
The immersive videos are damn cool. Sometime in the future, you will probably have live streaming in immersive videos. Imagine watching World Cup finals or the NBA finals immersively. You can choose where you want to sit and switch your seat as and when you like.
Even today you can see the potential. The F1 experience is crazy.
The immersive videos are damn cool. Sometime in the future, you will probably have live streaming in immersive videos. Imagine watching World Cup finals or the NBA finals immersively. You can choose where you want to sit and switch your seat as and when you like.
Even today you can see the potential. The F1 experience is crazy.
The AVP has broken folks sense of logic a bit I think
The key premise, which is false, seems to be that if Apple launched a new major platform/product like the AVP, it will be a success
That is simply inaccurate
Apple is fully capable of launching an absolute mistake
"Has potential" .. "tech is great" .. "a better version that's cheaper and lighter will make it take off!"
Those all ways of describing something that should have never left the lab
The key premise, which is false, seems to be that if Apple launched a new major platform/product like the AVP, it will be a success
That is simply inaccurate
Apple is fully capable of launching an absolute mistake
"Has potential" .. "tech is great" .. "a better version that's cheaper and lighter will make it take off!"
Those all ways of describing something that should have never left the lab
Good to know about its expanded availability. Still waiting for it to be available in my region.
it has ( as you proof admirably ) attracted tons of haters and schadenfreude guys who have been sitting in their armchairs for years desperately waiting for something to happen they could criticize
who ever would have said that? In fact the large iPhones are a huge mistake and the MacBookAir and cheaper iPads too. Who would want something that is not top notch? Or best in class?
don't underestimate the intelligence of others 🤣
Oh yes! They are. The haters are also absolutely capable of hating for the wrong reasons.
For me my AVP is an amazing ( luxury ) toy that I simply adore every time I am using it - I am glade Apple made the dev. platform available to the public too and I am not caring how much they are selling as long I can have mine.
No personal interest in any cheaper version at all - only in lighter and probably better - in case that would be feasible at all at the given level. A M5 or M6 will probably boost some features but not change the over all perception for me.
It is close to visual perfection already now for me.
Says who? Who would not love to have his fingers on some never published great lab gadgets? You’re either a very conservative technology interested person or not interested at all. I would love to see the first iPad prototypes or the new laptop design ideas - I adore interesting technology and high end - that’s my life elixir
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For Black Friday I’m getting a 77” LG C3 OLED and Sonos Arc Ultra instead to put in a home theater in my basement. Should be at least $500 cheaper than the Vision Pro and my whole family can enjoy it together!
My last bonus ended up in buying an ultra high end set of speakers ( exceeding a full featured Tesla ) and a record player, digital pre amplifier and maxed out IPad Pro and AVP and have more than $ 500 left for other stuff.
Let alone the cumbersome traveling with a 77“ TV 🤣
( AVP easily fits in my luggage )
Horses for courses.
I am traveling a lot on business - this year already to date >40 days in hotels - my AVP is a very nice entertainment when traveling.
Sounds like Tim didn’t get the forum memo that the product is DOA! One of the forum Miss Cleo’s better tell him and the board that. It sure seems like they are still actively developing the OS, still releasing the product in different markets, still releasing content and are working on newer hardware. Oops….
They gotta do something to move all the old stock laying around, and account for production time already committed to.
Move those units and caveat emptor!
Buying an AVP is setting money on fire
(certainly nothing wrong with that ... to each their own with their money)
Whose premise is this? I haven't heard or read anyone who claimed that. Beyond that, there doesn't even seem to be any consensus on what constitutes "success" for AVP as a product or as a product line, with some people eager to declare failure because AVP didn't reach "iPhone 1" launch numbers.
My Home Theater is an 85” TV, AppleTV 4K and two AirPod Max, for my wife and I.
When by myself, my AVP is the ultimate Theater, besides being and amazing work tool.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I love mine! Yeah, $4,000 was a lot to drop on a device that’s primary function is entertainment with the ability to do some computing when necessary with a wireless keyboard and trackpad but there’s nothing like the AVP when I want to watch a movie or an episode of a good TV show and can do it in what feels like a giant cinema in the comfort of my own home. Watching 3D movies is great but when it comes to watching Immersive video made to be viewed on the device it’s like nothing I’ve ever experienced. There is clearly a ton of potential if they can get the price down to something most consumers are willing to pay and get the form factor down to that of AR glasses.
But here’s the thing. Most of us spend money on something we don’t need. Is $4,000 a lot of money to spend inna single item for somebody like me? Yeah but when I look at my friends driving around in $50,0000 to $75,000 trucks that they don’t need for work and just use to it to get from A to B and occasionally take it off-roading they aren’t just spending $4,000 on something they don’t need, they are literally spending tens of thousands of dollars.
Hell I’ve got a divorced buddy renting an apartment, living paycheck to paycheck spending every dime he has on rent, groceries, utilities, gas, his truck and child support. The dude has a $700 a month truck payment and insurance on that thing isn’t cheap either with his driving record. Should he maybe be driving around in a used $15,000 to $25,000 vehicle that’ll last 10 years with his commute that only takes 10 minutes and out the money he’d be saving on his car payment and insurance toward owning a home that will appreciate in value plus putting money away for retirement or a rainy day fund or both You bet your a$$ he should. He spends in a few months of vehicle expenses what I paid for that device.
So that’s what irks me about the comments here. With all of the stupid crap people spend a hell if a lot more money on in total than this device, why bag on it under the pretense it has no value? It has value if you like it and no value if you don’t. It’s based on your opinion. How much am I willing to pay for an experience tantamount to a glimpse into the future as it is right now?
Like you said, to each his own, but the incessant bagging on this device when it’s clearly not meant for mainstream public consumption, while funny at first, is tiresome at this point.
It’s clear what this thing is at this point. It’s more like a beta product. So I do get the criticism but as somebody who has always loved to beta test going back to the Windows 95 days when Microsoft had a rep come to the local computer club when I was a kid before the Internet was a thing and was looking for volunteers I’ve loved to take a look at early forms of something and to play a small hand in testing it and helping to refine it so something like this was right up my alley even at its current price tag.
I don’t blame you or disagree with you if don’t feel that way. I totally get it but enough with the DOA BS in every article related to the device.
It might be well be dead. Or it could simply be exactly what Apple says it is. A product not yet ready for mass market consumption that they had to get into the hands of some consumers to gage where they are at with it. What works, what doesn’t, is there a killer app (to me there is, immersive video and apps plus spatial video and pictures), what can third party developers do, and the list goes on and on.
Even if their current hardware team’s focus is a refresh for the forthcoming M5 chip and creating a lower cost version of the device, that still means the product isn’t DOA.
With Apple’s current cash reserves alone they can float this so I’m not buying its DOA because consumers didn’t rush out to buy one. Nobody is going to sell a lot of anything at the price point in question for what at this point is primarily an entertainment device with very limited amounts of the best content.
Produce a $999 version with Apple financing at 0% interest that includes AppleCare with Accidental Damage and Theft Protection and includes AirPods with the device being in an AR Glasses form factor that includes cellular data so you can use it as a phone replacement and use it while in a social situations for things like have it identify by first and last name everyone there you know that you’re looking at as well as a million other AR type of functions you could use in that form factor and that will sell like hotcakes.
I don't have to step in dog poop to know I don't enjoy stepping in dog poop.
It's not that it doesn't interest me. It's that it's actively a waste of engineering resources that could be better used figuring out how to put socketed RAM and NVMe SSDs in Macs, or even just squashing all the bugs that seem to permeate everything Apple releases these days.
It needs to be discontinued and forgotten as quickly as possible.
If Apple had their s**t together, a stupid vanity project like this wouldn't be a problem for them. But they absolutely do not, so it needs to go away.
I can't imagine how infuriating it must feel for you to be constantly interrupted by satisfied AVP users as you try to convince everyone it's a terrible product that has no satisfied users.
and he doesn’t even own one…
He better be getting paid big bucks to be posting all this hate. Otherwise it would be a terrible waste of time.
the tech head in me wants one but i will wait until the one that launches next year to see what they actuall improve with it. trying to make it lighter should be their focus but will see on that one.
still odd that apple intelligence isn't on the first gen but is rumored for 2nd gen
still odd that apple intelligence isn't on the first gen but is rumored for 2nd gen
Your either-or logic of the engineering resources don't make sense.
Just don't follow a product category you're clearly not into then? Hate for the sake of hate is incredibly a waste of time.
I can tell from your comment that you have no clue about technology and the purpose and reason for a SoC.
There are a few individual on a kind of rant about things they don't seem to grasp. That's natural when something new comes along - we've seen that many times in history e.g. with railway - The speed is so enormous that it will kill you and traveling will be too fast - well ...
Meanwhile I am enjoying mine and new content popping up every now and then and the many software updates - looks like a very alive and healthy progress. Which is absolutely positive.
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It is truly amazing how many times some can repeatedly give the angry emoji, apparently without realizing that perhaps they should try something else that makes them happier than reading internet forums.
The weirdest part is that you believe that Apple engineering resources are required to figure out how to put socketed RAM and NVMe SSDs in Macs. Apple knew how to use socketed RAM in the 1970s, and simply using an NVMe slot would have been easier for them than designing (both) the new SSD cards that they used in the new minis. Apple has obviously very specifically decided against what you want, so you might want to come to peace with that or else move to a different platform, or your constant anger is going to eventually be hard on you. Your health isn't worth the frustration!
the funny thing about constant repeated ranting is just further publicity for the Apple Vision PRO - the more people are ranting against it the more attention is generated and the more people will be exposed to the gear.