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The control center icon seems to appear too easily for me, and is kinda distracting. Any tips for how to make it only appear when looking up?


Other than that I’m super happy with this product. 3 hours so far and been having a blast. Going to check out some movies and apps next.
Go into settings/control panel. You can change the position of the arrows. I moved them way up. Took care of the problem.
 
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Is there a brightness slider in VisionOS?

I don't like my iPhone at 100% brightness in a dark room either. Perhaps adjusting the brightness could help reduce the glare some experiencing.
 
I’m realizing that. I guess the early reviews people specifically mentioned being able to read their phones, which is a total lie.
I can read text on my phone or watch clearly. My iPhone max text size is one notch down from the middle… this is even with natural lighting only.

Same with my monitor, I could read that as well. When I try my quest 3, that is unusable.
 
Lol I couldn't read the text on my phone at first either...then my prescription lenses arrived and now I can read my phone!
 
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I can’t either using contacts. The lens inserts are arriving on Monday for me so hopefully it will make a difference
I wear contacts and its been fine--theyre soft contacts tho. Ive heard if u wear hard contacts that that can cause issues.
 
Sounds silly, but I cranked my phone brightness all the way up, and I can actually make out text and font now. I never thought about the fact my screen brightness is all the way down because I have no issue reading it in real life. I guess the camera doesn’t pick that up like I do in real life.
 
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Lots of detailed and useful reviews in this thread. Thanks a lot to everyone who took the time to post them - I'm not sure I would have with such a shiny new toy to play with 😁
 
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I just did a demo at the Apple store and was able to pick mine up. I haven't set mine up yet - i'm trying to force myself to go to the gym before sitting down for the rest of the day and not moving - but will soon.

On the demo, I was pleasantly surprised by the pass through quality after reading posts here. That being said, it was very bright in the Apple store. There is some motion blurring when you move around, but I found it acceptable. I think this is best suited to stationary use, at a desk or table.

I've watched almost every bit of content that came out prior to release day, so nothing surprised me too much, but I was completely blown away by the Apple immersive video experiences. I can't wait for more content like this to roll out. Also the fluidity of the interface and how smooth it is was really really impressive.

I did find the headset to be really, surprisingly heavy. I think the weight is the most "first gen" aspect of the headset. I think I will be using the dual band loop 95% of the time.
 
I just did a demo at the Apple store and was able to pick mine up. I haven't set mine up yet - i'm trying to force myself to go to the gym before sitting down for the rest of the day and not moving - but will soon.

On the demo, I was pleasantly surprised by the pass through quality after reading posts here. That being said, it was very bright in the Apple store. There is some motion blurring when you move around, but I found it acceptable. I think this is best suited to stationary use, at a desk or table.

I've watched almost every bit of content that came out prior to release day, so nothing surprised me too much, but I was completely blown away by the Apple immersive video experiences. I can't wait for more content like this to roll out. Also the fluidity of the interface and how smooth it is was really really impressive.

I did find the headset to be really, surprisingly heavy. I think the weight is the most "first gen" aspect of the headset. I think I will be using the dual band loop 95% of the time.
Dual band is def the way to go, imo
 
I do have a question for (only) the owners of the headset, especially those who ordered online. Was your light seal immediately good after the Face ID scan?
No. Not along the nose line. But I had the solo band positioned wrong. When. I got it up where it should be and tightened it, it sealed completely.

But this put too much pressure on my face and within 20 mins it was uncomfortable.

I either need the dual band or to reposition solo better.
I’m realizing that. I guess the early reviews people specifically mentioned being able to read their phones, which is a total lie.
I was confused about this too. I looked at my watch it was about as readable as Quest 2 / 3 which is to say not much at all.

But I’m reading about vastly different experiences between well lit and darkened rooms and I am wondering if the space I did my setup in, a not brightly lit conference room, was too dark or on the darker side of a good experience.

This makes some sense, the Q3 sorta needs a light room. I have heard you can use 850nm infrared floods to do VR in dark rooms though.

I’m curious if anyone has this equipment and can say if it helps VP in any way.
 
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No. Not along the nose line. But I had the solo band positioned wrong. When. I got it up where it should be and tightened it, it sealed completely.

But this put too much pressure on my face and within 20 mins it was uncomfortable.

I either need the dual band or to reposition solo better.

I was confused about this too. I looked at my watch it was about as readable as Quest 2 / 3 which is to say not much at all.

But I’m reading about vastly different experiences between well lit and darkened rooms and I am wondering if the space I did my setup in, a not brightly lit conference room, was too dark or on the darker side of a good experience.

This makes some sense, the Q3 sorta needs a light room. I have heard you can use 850nm infrared floods to do VR in dark rooms though.

I’m curious if anyone has this equipment and can say if it helps VP in any way.

I cranked the brightness up on my phone, and that helped to make it legible. Completely didn’t think of the fact my phone brightness is always on the lowest setting.
 
Just picked mine up this morning: mind blowing experience and this is coming from a Quest 3 user. I won’t be using it much this week though because I have to order my inserts and everything is a blurry mess for me. But when I did many demo, at least they were able to let me use the demo insert and fully experience everything in HD. It took me a few minutes to get use to the eye and hand gestures but now I have a better understanding of how to use it.

Overall, no issues so far. I just wish I could experience it in all its glory.
 
Spent more time with it earlier, noticed that none of my photos were syncing—actually only my last 8 spatial videos and that was it.

Went into iCloud settings and most of the iCloud apps I use, including photos was off by default. Including messages and Notes.

Anyone else notice this? Seemed strange that a few of my spatial sync’s even tho sync was off. Made it confusing to me why more hadn’t shown up.

Also afterward I just unlocked and yanked the battery cable so it could charge separate from the headset.

But now I think it needs to be plugged in to sync all the data I want on there.

Another thing, there’s no 1password app at release! That’s a pretty big miss IMO.
 
Didn’t plan on buying one, but after the demo, I did. Bought a second light seal that is for my wife…only to find it doesn’t support multiple users. So while she can use it, the hand and eye tracking isn’t as accurate for her.

This is a bummer…
 
Spent more time with it earlier, noticed that none of my photos were syncing—actually only my last 8 spatial videos and that was it.

Went into iCloud settings and most of the iCloud apps I use, including photos was off by default. Including messages and Notes.

Anyone else notice this? Seemed strange that a few of my spatial sync’s even tho sync was off. Made it confusing to me why more hadn’t shown up.

Also afterward I just unlocked and yanked the battery cable so it could charge separate from the headset.

But now I think it needs to be plugged in to sync all the data I want on there.

Another thing, there’s no 1password app at release! That’s a pretty big miss IMO.

I noticed this too about iCloud - lots of "offs" by defualt

The software also seems a little buggy around multiple apple IDs (one for purchases and imesage and the other for icloud), but I'd argue that is true across the Apple ecosystems

I was successful getting 1password'd iPad app working and integrated into the system. Took some work with settings but now it works like a charm, even with the eye ID
 
I’m realizing that. I guess the early reviews people specifically mentioned being able to read their phones, which is a total lie.

I can read my phone just fine. Just don't hold it too close to you face so that the cameras can focus on it. Cranking the brightness does help!
 
Didn’t plan on buying one, but after the demo, I did. Bought a second light seal that is for my wife…only to find it doesn’t support multiple users. So while she can use it, the hand and eye tracking isn’t as accurate for her.

This is a bummer…
You can just put it in guest mode and allow access to all apps. It’s pretty easy and quick to do and it will rescan her eyes and hands at the beginning to set it up. She’ll have to do it each time she uses it though. It will continue to remember yours.
 
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I noticed this too about iCloud - lots of "offs" by defualt

The software also seems a little buggy around multiple apple IDs (one for purchases and imesage and the other for icloud), but I'd argue that is true across the Apple ecosystems

I was successful getting 1password'd iPad app working and integrated into the system. Took some work with settings but now it works like a charm, even with the eye ID
Yep I had to activate all of the icloud stuff as well. Not sure why apple has them off by default. Still trying to get Dashlane to work...for some reason the app wouldn't download the last time I tried.
 
Sounds silly, but I cranked my phone brightness all the way up, and I can actually make out text and font now. I never thought about the fact my screen brightness is all the way down because I have no issue reading it in real life. I guess the camera doesn’t pick that up like I do in real life.
It's not silly at all if the camera lenses have actual variable physical apertures. It's actually exactly what you would expect. Lower light, larger (physical) aperture to let more light in, less sharp image.

Does anyone know whether the lenses have physical apertures, or is all exposure controlled with just ISO and shutter speed/angle?

/edit
(Of course even if the aperture is fixed, the lower the light, the higher the ISO and the higher the noise; and the slower the shutter speed and more blur - both of which have the potential to significantly impede the camera system's ability to resolve fine detail)
 
Didn’t plan on buying one, but after the demo, I did. Bought a second light seal that is for my wife…only to find it doesn’t support multiple users. So while she can use it, the hand and eye tracking isn’t as accurate for her.

This is a bummer…
IIRC, The Information’s reporting on the device during development suggested Apple had intended to support multiple users on a single Vision Pro headset.

I realize the company has not fully supported multiuser outside macOS yet, but I actually think this could still happen on visionOS.

Part of the reason is competitive and the other is a need to activate Apple IDs with variant device usage patterns as quickly as possible.

In the first point, Quest already supports multiuser. Very well as far as I know. It still has the concept of a primary user, and it could be a pain to switch to if you were not the primary user. But it works and I’ve read many posts of people talking about sharing a quest with their partner.

On the second, since the device is largely a solo experience, the Vision Pro has to be used serially. Meaning, if one person is away from the house during one part of the day, another person can use it. Then it may flip at night.

This would mean Apple would collect data on completely different use cases and user patterns on each device. This early on, that would be incredibly valuable. I’d say it would be for indefinitely until the price comes down to where it is reasonable to have one for each adult in a household.

Apple can’t market effectively, invest in development of particular use cases or get enough customer satisfaction if product utilization is so explicitly limited.

Apple’s whole game has been reducing the many points of friction involved in owning and using AR/VR. It’s not okay to have a guest mode that subjugates someone’s experience with the product.

I would bet multiuser makes it into visionOS 2.0.

I noticed this too about iCloud - lots of "offs" by defualt

The software also seems a little buggy around multiple apple IDs (one for purchases and imesage and the other for icloud), but I'd argue that is true across the Apple ecosystems

I was successful getting 1password'd iPad app working and integrated into the system. Took some work with settings but now it works like a charm, even with the eye ID

Yep I had to activate all of the icloud stuff as well. Not sure why apple has them off by default. Still trying to get Dashlane to work...for some reason the app wouldn't download the last time I tried.
Are there any other products that default these to off?

Im really confused about photos. I had some spatial videos available at the start. No other media. Edit: Maybe, I had panoramas also. Can anyone confirm that?

It seems very odd that Apple would let a sample of iCloud sourced media in if sync is technically off.

I get how relevant the presence of spatial video is but at the least it should prompt you to turn on photos sync when finding the other media types empty.

Or perhaps a message that a sample have been made available but to get the rest turn on sync.
 
Took me about 90 minutes to Sign In. It seems my Keychain password (used for devices?) was different than one I used to login to apple.com. I do not remember having to type password in with a new device, it just gets it from my nearby iPhone. At any rate I finally managed to get it reset, and got signed in.

I've done very little with it so far, watched a little of Avatar in 3D on Disney, the Immersive videos on AppleTV, read a few pages in Apple Books, News+. Most in relative darkness, where hand gestures don't get picked up very well. It seems Books and News+ have no dark theme? At least I couldn't find it (have display setting set to Dark).

I cannot envision watching lots of movies with it, as that is something I rarely do solo. I do some Arcade games on AppleTV and will probably try out some of the ones created for AVP. But it's much simpler to pick up game controller, wake it up (which wakes up ATV) and get in a few minutes of something than to wait for AVP to boot up and get it on my head, and adjusted etc.

I also haven't tried it out as screen for MacBook. But given you may need physical access to the MacBook, or dedicated trackpad and keyboard... how is this more productive than sitting at a desk with multiple monitors? But I will try it.

I'm very impressed with the hardware, I find it pretty comfortable, and it is fun playing with it. I am nowhere near an Apple Store, so buying one was the only way to experience it.

But right now I'm on the fence about returning it. Just not sure it is something I'll enjoy using regularly.
 
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