It's my understanding this version of AVP is more a development platform to quickly get into developer hands so interesting AR apps can be created, ready for the AVP II, which will likely be more refined (and possibly glasses) and cost less money.
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Apple Vision Pro Supports Up to 100Hz Refresh Rate
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
It's my understanding this version of AVP is more a development platform to quickly get into developer hands so interesting AR apps can be created, ready for the AVP II, which will likely be more refined (and possibly glasses) and cost less money.
Europe exclusive!
Plus, a lot of them theoretically go that high but basically never can. The Quest 2 can do 120 on paper but never in practice unless you want no battery life and play the most basic games. I’m still extremely impressed the VP will go above 1 hour with all the tech it has.
Last edited:
Agree with you that the GPU power might be a little low. We'll see. But CPU wise.. Given the very small changes in performance and in power efficiency between A15, A16 and A17, M2 will probably be just fine.
Curious why the travel mode - presumably used to watch films - doesn't allow 24p.
Of course, it would only have worked for short art-house films under 100 minutes...
Of course, it would only have worked for short art-house films under 100 minutes...
200 Hz and I'm in. No wonder it's running at 100 Hz... it's got an M2. Underpowered even before its in consumers hands.
You barely have enough compute power to run a calculator using that old tech.
You barely have enough compute power to run a calculator using that old tech.
Some exciting stuff for what the Vision Pro will bring, but def not a buy for a 1st gen release, will be great for developers, but for consumers, not yet (unless you got wads of cash to burn) I would go as far to say that the 3rd or maybe even the 4th gen of this product would be great for consumers to begin to consider a purchase. Tech will have improved drastically in all areas, cost of product will be more ideal for consumers. Think back when the first iphone came out, and how it really gained extreme momentum when the 4th gen, and 5th gen was released. Same will apply for the Vision Pro. Time will tell, and we shall see how it will play out.
While I get your point, it’s still a bit jarring at this price point to not be the best in all the numbers. It’s not even about being the best, it’s about matching what’s already the standard across the board in the industry.
And how many games on PSVR2 support that refresh rate natively?
I'd rather have 90 FPS at 90 Hz than 60 FPS reprojected at 120Hz
(PSVR2 also has a 90Hz mode for some games)
Yup.
It makes sense to criticize Apple for the lack of 120Hz on their non-Pro iPhones—the GPU always has tons of power to spare unless you're playing an especially demanding game. But with a VR/AR headset, even the most basic of experiences can use all the GPU they can get to improve visual quality.
👆 This is BuffaloTF. Don't be like BuffaloTF, learn to read.
I wonder what happens if you are in this 100hz mode to avoid flicker and then start playing a movie? Does it stay at 100 and work the same way screens worked before variable refresh rate? Start allowing the light flicker in? Odd.
I’m just looking forward to the redesign… 100 Hz or not, I’m not buying that thing at that price no matter what it’s internals.
It just screams Scuba!
It just screams Scuba!
You don't get it.
Apple strives for the best *experience*.
You literally don't get the best experience by chasing *SOME* spec numbers, but not others.
And from all the reports from the people who actually tried this after announcement, they actually nailed it, even at that early stage. There was effectively universal praise that it was a smoother experience than anything else out there.
But I get it, there's LOTS of people out there like you who think it's not the best because some VR headset can briefly eclipse one of the specs, hitting for a moment or so 120Hz when basically nothing is happening in the scene, all the while being considerably more laggy in movement and pointer tracking, having potato-quality passthrough, and forcing the user to hold controllers.
That is a COMPLETELY different experience to the one you saw when the person walked around their office, opened the fridge, grabbed their orange juice, or actually USED THEIR PHONE while using AVP.
That's utterly unique in the space.
At least go and buy the Vision Pro using that $3500… dropping $3500 is just bonkers.
MacBooks are more expensive than iPhones and yet have mass market appeal. I just don’t see a large percentage of the human population wanting to wear these on their faces especially if they're too heavy or uncomfortable. Also then there’s the virtual interface and whether that’s going to be intuitive and useful or if will feel gimmicky. Also there’s the additional cost of lenses if you wear glasses. Then there’s how to interact with others in the virtual world. I feel like if this product was available in March 2020 it probably would’ve taken off like a rocket ship. But now that the pandemic is over, and people are back to face to face interactions, a product like this will not proliferate in the market place.
I would love to be wrong and to see Apple do well with spatial computing. But I’m super skeptical. We will see though and I’m rooting for Apple to succeed.
It certainly is if all it will be used for is to have a "large screen" computer viewing experience wearing goggles, instead of looking at a traditional computer display.
But... that's not what AR is really about. And that's why it costs so much money.
