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Apple Vision Pro Virtual Keyboard Blasted As 'Complete Write-Off'
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To be fair to them, typing in air is quite different from a touchscreen.
but for occasional typing I don't see why it's a big deal. Even with the Quest's janky hand tracking it works fine. I'm guessing the Vision's additional cameras, sensors etc. would be even better.
maybe in the future we get typing on any surface?
People say that about the quest and I still use mine almost every day a year after buying it🤷🏻♂️ you’re either super impressed and excited by VR devices or you’re not . Persists been a dream since I was a kid
I intially read that as "his Apple lunacy." 😂
Everyone take a drink; someone said “Steve jobs would never”.
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HobeSoundDarryl
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Think different! We can’t be “quaint” forever. If virtual keyboard version 1 isn’t quite there, I look forward to version 2… or 3… or 4.
That’s the ticket laddies.
And how was “copy & paste” functionality on iPhone 1?
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huh? you mean two fingers? we have a class just for learning 10 finger typing here. They actually put a wooden board above your hands and keyboard so you cannot see where you are typing and eventually it's like competitions on who can type the most text in 15 minutes and stuff like that. I always found it to be fun. I even won the state competition
He's been dead for a decade. It's time to stop worrying about what he would or wouldn't do.
Its more weird to me than anything else this isn't working as expected. I would have thought this would be one of the first things they would have perfected before announcing it.
People will be using this for work? I don't think so. 
Maybe they'll come out with a virtual stylus
It has every typing option available on you mac, plus eye control, virtual keyboard and tighter voice integration. If you could work before, you can still work. Oh, and look how he can write with his fingers! Can't do that on your fancy pants Mac can you, Mr. Work?People will be using this for work? I don't think so.
. Gurman aside, this is fine as an alternate when you are on the can. We have known this since June. See how he does that cool little finger circle on the J? That is for June, or Joy 
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Yeah, I'm gonna file this one under "no surprise there". I'm planning to order one, and didn't even consider that I'd be able to type usefully without a physical keyboard.
I honestly can't even imagine how a floating virtual keyboard could function in any practical way for touch typing, and I'll be genuinely shocked if even in a much later iteration this gets much farther than than the same sort of "in a pinch" keyboard as an onscreen one you have to click with a mouse. Touchscreen keyboards only work as well as they do--which is well, but nowhere near touch-typing speed--because you can lock your hands in a specific position relative to the screen and build up muscle memory, and you still need to keep your eyes on the keyboard to make it work.
I don't see how, but maybe it'll be possible to approach an iPad keyboard some day, but even those are a weak replacement for physical keys, and you're sure not typing more than a short time without resting your wrists on a flat surface to keep your arms from getting tired.
The entire purpose of the look-then-touch-fingers-together UI idiom is to overcome the awkward gorilla arm effect that makes big vertical touchscreens worthless for extended use, and a floating keyboard takes you right back there even if it somehow did work.
I honestly can't even imagine how a floating virtual keyboard could function in any practical way for touch typing, and I'll be genuinely shocked if even in a much later iteration this gets much farther than than the same sort of "in a pinch" keyboard as an onscreen one you have to click with a mouse. Touchscreen keyboards only work as well as they do--which is well, but nowhere near touch-typing speed--because you can lock your hands in a specific position relative to the screen and build up muscle memory, and you still need to keep your eyes on the keyboard to make it work.
I don't see how, but maybe it'll be possible to approach an iPad keyboard some day, but even those are a weak replacement for physical keys, and you're sure not typing more than a short time without resting your wrists on a flat surface to keep your arms from getting tired.
The entire purpose of the look-then-touch-fingers-together UI idiom is to overcome the awkward gorilla arm effect that makes big vertical touchscreens worthless for extended use, and a floating keyboard takes you right back there even if it somehow did work.
its stupid until its not. As this technology advance you cant just take your keyboard everywhere you go especially if you want to take your VR headset on the go. People said the same thing about on screen keyboards when the iphone first came out and look where we are now. Just give it time, this is only the first generation of this device
Those that will purchase the VP and use it during trips of long distance, due to the absence of a viable virtual keyboard I can foresee speech commands being used for some functionality of the VP. It will basically be like those you see out and about who appear to be talking to themselves where in fact they are using bluetooth ear pieces with inbuilt microphones to talk to the person on the other end of the mobile phone. It will be the same with the VP. There will be people on flights who will appear to be talking to themselves but instead it will be them giving vocal commands to the VP.
I would wager that of the people willing to spend $3500 on a VR headset a much greater percentage of them know how to touch type.
Wow just like air power just can’t seem to get it right 🤣😂
As I said in the thread I made about this a few days ago, imagine if someone said the typing experience on a Mac, iPhone, or iPad was a complete “write-off”, and I’ll reiterate what I’ve said in another thread, AVP is a hobby category and nothing more. Similar to AppleTV in its early days.
HobeSoundDarryl
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Or, my imagined primary use is Vpro standing in for the lid of a MBpro: physical MBpro keyboard and track pad on the lap or tray table, giganto work screen floating roughly where the guy's head in the next row forward actually rests. I never have even thought about leaning on the virtual keyboard for more than "in a pinch", minimal messaging if it did work (and, much like iDevice keyboards, it probably does work fine for that kind of use).
I don't even care much for the touchscreen keyboard on an iDevice (certainly about as incapable for touch typists). I would bet that the touch typists among us battering this issue probably use their thumbs far more than normal when entering text on their iDevice keyboard. I can't recall ever seeing anyone touch-typing in the normal way on an iDevice screen keyboard. If that's reality, what did iDevice users do? They adapted to what the tech could do.
So if this tech can't allow air-touch-typing which seems quite undesirable to me anyway, they may use this virtual keyboard option like they use the one on iDevices... or perhaps use the iDevice keyboard with Vpro... much like someone using an iDevice AppleTV remote in lieu of the physical AppleTV remote.
Else, there are abundant bluetooth keyboards that can fit into dongle-like quarters in the bag... which then unfold or unroll and provide keys one can feel when they want to touch type. And there's always that MB keyboard + trackpad readily available to stand in as the realest of real tech to get serious work done.
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With better hands tracking at least I’m sure it’s better than quest’s virtual keyboard. 😂 On the quest you can swipe to type but there is no words predictions! Like are you kidding me??!!
Mostly workouts. I would do more with it if i didnt spent 10 hours a day at an offfice in front of a computer. But with AVP i will do a lot more because it has high quality pass through and will be radically better for media consumption