I'm more fascinated that some of these devices would still be in regular service. Even at the top end 2010 is 9 years ago. I'm not still rocking any tech from back then.
No point when they use a two-wire lead, whereas UK plugs on extension leads do have a metal earth pin.
DUH!
"These wall plug adapters shipped with Mac and certain iOS devices between 2003 and 2010 and were also included in the Apple World Travel Adapter Kit." - this article
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Would that require a FOURTH prong?
Bit of light reading for you: https://www.fastcompany.com/3032807/why-england-has-the-best-wall-sockets-on-earth
So it’s technically safer, but how does that translate in to real world results? If it’s say twice as expensive and twice as wasteful (in terms of materials used) but results in say, less than 0.001% electrical related accidents is it worth it? What are the trade offs? Maybe it is, but the article only talks about how it’s technically safer, not real world numbers.
So it’s technically safer, but how does that translate in to real world results? If it’s say twice as expensive and twice as wasteful (in terms of materials used) but results in say, less than 0.001% electrical related accidents is it worth it? What are the trade offs? Maybe it is, but the article only talks about how it’s technically safer, not real world numbers.
I was going to say you were incorrect, because you don't need the ground if the appliance is double insulated. but I do know what you mean about touching a mbp or rubbing your fingers across the top of a closed laptop, I could feel what you were saying. It was like a rumble strip with mini static shocks. It wasn't painful in any sort of way, just like a static rumble if that makes sense.There is a problem with both the old and the new UK adapter that Apple ships now... both of them do not provide any grounding as there is no electrical connection at all to the vertical center prong on the UK plug.
why is it a problem, without grounding some people might experience slight sensation of electricity by touching the palm rest area of the laptop!
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The only way to have proper grounding is to use the extension cable that Apple used to ship prior to 2016.
Or u can try this solution if you can only to use only the Apple provided adapter: https://codesandbolts.com/macbook-power-adapter-static-issue/
As do practically all of the US/Japan style plugs I’ve ever used. Next.Benefits as to why the British plug is best
1. You plug it in and it stays in.
Completely subjective and utterly nothing to do with how much safer it is in practice.2. It is easier to fumble around and plug it in.
No one is disputing that, how much safer does that ACTUALLY make these plugs? Next.3. It has a fuse.
Again subjective. Also you know what else is easy to grab on to? A coffee mug. Doesn’t make it a safer plug. Next.4. Its easier to grab on to.
And? Who the hell actually does that? Practically no one. A feature that’s unused by 99.999999% of users isn’t much of a selling point.5. You can wire the plug yourself more easily. (Unless the nanny state has got to you)
Are you? Do you have any evidence to back up this claim? Also, how many fires are caused by overheating Christmas lights? One? One hundred? One million? It matters how big the problem is.6. Less likely to have fires due to overheating christmas tree lights if the fuse blows.
Which doesn’t mean it’s safer, in fact it means that there is great current running through the wiring which is MORE dangerous, not less.7. The plug can handle more current
Baseless assertion and logically flawed too. Whether it’s safer would be determined from the data not what “people” know. Lots of incorrect things are or have been “well known and agreed upon”It is well known and agreed upon that the British plug is better/safer, to think otherwise is futile.
I have loads of these (fat ones) that have come with various Apple devices that I have purchased over the years. So I went to the Apple recall site only to find that I need to input the serial number of the item that the adaptor came with. What! How am I supposed to know which adaptor belongs to which device?
When I go through the recall process, at no time does it ask me for the serial number of my device, which as someone already mentioned, is a daft way of identifying this plug.
Rubbish. Not worth my time responding to such rubbish.As do practically all of the US/Japan style plugs I’ve ever used. Next.
Completely subjective and utterly nothing to do with how much safer it is in practice.
No one is disputing that, how much safer does that ACTUALLY make these plugs? Next.
Again subjective. Also you know what else is easy to grab on to? A coffee mug. Doesn’t make it a safer plug. Next.
And? Who the hell actually does that? Practically no one. A feature that’s unused by 99.999999% of users isn’t much of a selling point.
Are you? Do you have any evidence to back up this claim? Also, how many fires are caused by overheating Christmas lights? One? One hundred? One million? It matters how big the problem is.
What worse, a disease that’s 100% fatal but only one in 100 million people have, or a disease that’s 5% fatal but affects 1 in every million?
The actual numbers matter. Next.
Which doesn’t mean it’s safer, in fact it means that there is great current running through the wiring which is MORE dangerous, not less.
Baseless assertion and logically flawed too. Whether it’s safer would be determined from the data not what “people” know. Lots of incorrect things are or have been “well known and agreed upon”
You did two things with your post:
1. Regurgitated information from the original article without adding any new or supporting information
2. Made irrelevant and/or subjective claims
You didn’t do the actual important thing, back up your argument with any actual data.
You should do the latter, not the former.
Which doesn’t mean it’s safer, in fact it means that there is great current running through the wiring which is MORE dangerous, not less.
About the serial number thing - I initially got this and after entering 100% the correct serial number, the website kept saying it was not recognised. You'll get this if you follow this incorrect link: https://www.apple.com/uk/support/ac-wallplug-adapter/ and choose the 'web' option:
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, which will then show this:
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However, I then realised that I was following a link to the U.S. Apple Support page, which does ask for a serial number. If you follow this correct link: https://www.apple.com/uk/support/three-prong-ac-wall-plug-adapter/ you'll see that really, the only options are, to go to a store to get it replaced:
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Giant annoying power blocks aren’t any more common here in my experience? They’re always annoying everywhere but realistically cable management is straightforward everywhere if you’ve got good plug boards/sockets.So next time I hear someone espouse just how wonderful the virtues are of our ones, I think they're being completely delusional.
Pretty sure it's not as expensive as you make out (I'm thinking you're imagining it as being way bigger than the US plugs). Besides, why would you put a price on life?So it’s technically safer, but how does that translate in to real world results? If it’s say twice as expensive and twice as wasteful (in terms of materials used) but results in say, less than 0.001% electrical related accidents is it worth it? What are the trade offs? Maybe it is, but the article only talks about how it’s technically safer, not real world numbers.
https://www.apple.com/uk/shop/product/MGRL2B/A/apple-5w-usb-power-adapter-folding-pins
And given Apple can manage to make a folding pin type, why oh why do other companies not do them? (Yes, I've seen mentioned about it breaking some standard or another, but again, if a huge multinational like Apple can manage it, then why no one else? Surely if made in bulk, the slightly higher manufacturing costs can't be an issue.)
That's equally a design flaw for the power strip manufacturers putting the sockets too close together. But yeh, I get the point that this problem isn't present with non-UK plugs. I've had this problem myself.And the latter issue has always been an absolute pain, as certain plugs (especially those that incorporate the power supply block on them) take over a whole socket and block access to others nearby. Other 2-pin plugs from around the planet don't have this issue to anywhere near the same extent.