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The biggest difference with iCloud vs these other services — iCloud has historically been bundled with hardware. You buy the hardware, and get these convenient services to make them "just work".

Apple has a hardware-first business model.

Dropbox and similar services are a service-first business, designed to work with an array of hardware vendors (Macs, PCs, tablets, phones).
You're right, but you gotta be able to change with the times...
 
There's a saying with technology ... the problem is often between the chair and the keyboard.

I've personally never lost anything in over 22 years with Apple's cloud services ... through .Mac to MobileMe to iCloud. All contacts, bookmarks, files, mail ... smooth transition every time.
Nice, but it doesn’t mean there has never been trouble on Apple’s side of things. I’ve mostly been fine but lost PDFs synced to iCloud a bunch of years ago. I'm certain it wasn't on my end as it happened again when I tried a second time to see if it was a one time occurrence. It wasn't. I didn't bother using for some time and I think it got fixed eventually (was in contact with Apple support and everything).
 
The biggest difference with iCloud vs these other services — iCloud has historically been bundled with hardware. You buy the hardware, and get these convenient services to make them "just work".

Apple has a hardware-first business model.

Dropbox and similar services are a service-first business, designed to work with an array of hardware vendors (Macs, PCs, tablets, phones).
That'd all be fine if Apple did not charge for their services. But they do, so Apple should be pillared for their badly executed services.
 
The biggest difference with iCloud vs these other services — iCloud has historically been bundled with hardware. You buy the hardware, and get these convenient services to make them "just work".

Apple has a hardware-first business model.

Dropbox and similar services are a service-first business, designed to work with an array of hardware vendors (Macs, PCs, tablets, phones).

That is a very good point. Looking over a number of recent changes in code for Ventura and approaches to third party solutions and factoring in Apple’s approach to Silicon…. Things seem to be moving very firmly in the direction of Apple proprietary first.

This will mean more and more third party solutions in both software and hardware will begin to lose support and ultimately break.

Honestly I don’t see this as a consumer friendly nor a long term Apple friendly approach.

Further closing the ecosystem will burden Apple with more and more effort to maintain entire product lines for ever more ancillary and esoteric APIs and hardware devices.

It’s a strategy that failed before and is unlikely to become successful a second time.

If anything this will just further establish the value of more open frameworks like the many Linux distributions and yeah even Microsoft’s solutions.

Microsoft’s been very steady in the market by reducing their focus and strategy to software as a service. Apple can’t decide what they want to do but a full stack design approach for the entire computing life cycle is too much for one singular entity to absorb effectively. It was hard before and it’s even harder now. I just don’t see how they can maintain this.

SMH
 
What's funny is this Jeff guy and people know that iTunes was not created by Apple it was actually an existing piece of software that was purchased and then built from that that's typically what Apple does. They find a third-party that has a good product and they figured out how they can build on top of that so I wouldn't say he created iTunes unless the name counts.
The day a company puts their name on it, they own it. No excuses, no blaming, they own it for the good or bad. In the case of iTunes, Apple owned the bad.
 
The more people leave that have Eddy Cue as their supervisor, the more I think he should be fired. This guy is overrated AF and just wants to be in the spotlight. Apple should finally get rid of him already.

He is also the executives closest to Tim Cook. I would argue a lot of Strategy happening at Apple are influenced by him.
 
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I would like to see the next Apple VP whom oversees iCloud, iMessage and FaceTime Infrastructure to add the ability to start group FaceTime audio calls:


A feature like this could be similar to the current group FaceTime calls (which allow up to 32 people) but without having video - which would be great for conference calling or for group calls with friends or family
 
Hopefully, the new person in charge can bring 💭 imessages to ☁️ iCloud online. It needs to be expediated.
Yeah, I'm fully invested in iPhone/iPad (and do own a mac, but spend very little time on it), but my daily driver will probably always be a windows or linux device because...that's what's used overwhelmingly in business.

It sure would be nice to have an app or website that could provide cross platform iMessage service instead of having to rely on my phone.
 
There's a saying with technology ... the problem is often between the chair and the keyboard.
It has nothing to do with that. I usually lose stuff when iCloud transitions to a new version, or when an old macOS/iOS interacts with the new iCloud architecture, and it usually happens with Notes.

I've seen problems with losing table data, content of encrypted notes, and losing attachments. Care to explain how I could create a note and join 3 PDFs and 2 images, all working perfectly well for a few months, and then all I see is a gray thumbnail for each, saying "0 files" and giving me an error when I tap on them? A user is not able to do this.
 
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