Apple vs. Qualcomm Trial Begins Today

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    Two years after Apple sued Qualcomm over $1 billion in unpaid royalty rebates and anticompetitive patent licensing practices, the tech heavyweights are set to face off in a San Diego courtroom. The trial begins today with jury selection.

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    Apple manufacturers Foxconn, Pegatron, Wistron, and Compal, whose complaints have been merged with Apple's, allege that they have collectively overpaid Qualcomm approximately $9 billion in royalties, a figure that could be tripled under antitrust laws to $27 billion, according to The New York Times.

    Apple argues that Qualcomm should also repay $3.1 billion associated with patents whose rights are exhausted, the report adds.

    Apple in January 2017:
    Qualcomm in turn estimates that Foxconn, Pegatron, Wistron, and Compal owe more than $7.5 billion in unpaid royalties. Qualcomm also argues that Apple should be held liable for a doubled penalty of at least $15 billion.

    Qualcomm in April 2017:
    Apple already won a preliminary judgment ordering Qualcomm to pay nearly $1 billion in withheld rebates last month. Qualcomm has also faced scrutiny from antitrust regulators in multiple countries, including the United States, where an FTC lawyer said evidence of misconduct is "overwhelming."

    "The evidence is overwhelming that Qualcomm engaged in exclusionary conduct, and the effects of Qualcomm's conduct, when considered together, are anticompetitive," said FTC lawyer Jennifer Milici, during closing arguments in the FTC vs. Qualcomm trial in January, according to The Wall Street Journal.

    Amidst the legal battle, Apple dropped Qualcomm as a supplier of cellular modems starting with last year's iPhone XS, iPhone XS Max, and iPhone XR, with rival chipmaker Intel fulfilling all orders for those devices.

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    I wish there was a world where they both lost so they each learnt to get along with others.
     
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    Chalk up another Qualcomm loss. They’re on a roll, after all. I think they’ve lost every single antitrust case so far (if someone knows of one they didn’t lose please share it).
     
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    it may officially start today, but it won't end until years from now
     
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    Get your pompoms out everyone! Ready, OK! Go Apple! Go Apple!

    :rolleyes:
     
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    This will be reported as income from Apple "services"...
     
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    "The more Apple innovates with unique features such as Touch ID, advanced displays, and cameras, to name just a few, the more money Qualcomm collects for no reason and the more expensive it becomes for Apple to fund these innovations."

    The camera is a "unique feature"?

    o_O
     
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    At least now we'll finally get to the bottom of this matter. I don't know who is to blame for the dispute, but I for one am excited the truth will finally come out. lol. /s
     
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    They should have thought about that before signing a contract that calculates licensing cost based on device cost...
     
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    This is a waste of time for everyone at  and it’s not going to bode well for both company. Qualcomm started to charge a few percentages higher due to iPhone X Notch Screen chopped off a portion display and is by far the most unprofessional looking device ever produced from Apple.
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    Qualcomm should consider charging at a higher rate if Apple unable to make the new 2019 iPhone without a notch.
     
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    This is such a ridiculous comment; what has the notch got to do with any of this?
     
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    Talk about interesting timing.

    The CEO of Huawei said in an interview with CNBC yesterday that they’d be open to selling 5G modems to Apple, and also called Apple a “great company”.

    So much for the rumor last week being fake.
     
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    Wouldn’t that be something if that actually happened? They called Apple a “great company”. Wow!
     
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    Yep, that's why you wanna rip them off.
     
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    I see no need for the CEO of Huawei to heap praise on Apple (multiple times) during his interview other than to drive home the point they’d be open to doing business regarding 5G modems.

    Unlike the CEO of Qualcomm who states he thinks Apple will be a future customer for modems while simultaneously double dipping on licensing fees and filing nuisance suits against Apple.
     
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    Apple should have? Apple surely did, that’s likely part of why Apple was never able to reach a direct licensing agreement with Qualcomm. Apple and Qualcomm had some other, now expired, agreements. But they never had a direct licensing agreement.
     
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    no, qualcomm didnt invent the internet - but that wasnt the patent apple infringed. and those patents are far from being bs.
     

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