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Those two patents sound like BS. 1) Quickly transferring data from device to Internet. AND 2) quickly connecting to the Internet after boot. Really, Qualcomm didn't invert the Internet nor did they invert data.
Yeah I agree, just like lots of apples patents are BS at same level...
 
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"The more Apple innovates with unique features such as Touch ID, advanced displays, and cameras, to name just a few, the more money Qualcomm collects for no reason and the more expensive it becomes for Apple to fund these innovations."

The camera is a "unique feature"?

o_O
It's gotten better over the years and still one of the best on the market, so Qualcomm should get paid for that? How about FaceID too? Better yet, Google and Samsung make great cameras too, Qualcomm should get paid for that too?
 
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no, qualcomm didnt invent the internet - but that wasnt the patent apple infringed. and those patents are far from being bs.

You’re right they’re not BS patents.

But they have NOTHING to do with this case or all the other antitrust cases Qualcomm has LOST in the last few years, costing them billions in fines (and billions more likely to come). Or the $1 billion preliminary judgment ordering Qualcomm to give Apple money back for rebates.

As I said, Qualcomm is on a roll here with loss after loss in antitrust cases. Amazing people think they’re in the right when court after court all around the world have found Qualcomm guilty.
 

RealTuner said Antitrust case. Not patent case.

Besides, the case you’re referring to that Qualcomm won. One of these patents, flash booting, was conceived by an Apple Engineer in collaboration with Qualcomm. Unfortunately Apple and the engineer did not file for the patent on this idea and Qualcomm ran to the patent office as quick as their little thieving feet could take them.

https://iphone.appleinsider.com/art...dea-for-smartphone-boot-up-tech-from-engineer
 
I'm all for IP protection, and I'm not saying this as a fan of Apple, but I really hope Qualcomm gets rekt here; they're being unreasonable. Everyone should just agree on a price, and do business together.
 
Tired of reading about all the court cases. I probably should just skip over them, but it's more fun to whine about it, as if that will make it go away. My advice, learn to play nice, just like they taught in kindergarten. It'll save billions of dollars, and a ton of embarrassment.
 
No one wins in any courts except lawyers.
True. Just lawyers.

Oh, and the prevailing parties.

Lawyers and the prevailing parties.
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The only winners are the legal firms representing the companies.
True. Just the legal firms.

Oh, and the prevailing parties.

Legal firms and the prevailing parties.
 
A win for Apple means a win for Huawei and China since Intel is behind.

Qualcomm winning means better radio baseband for all and supporting local economy.

With 5G being a national interest let's hope for the right outcome.
 
That’s a “nuisance case”. I specifically asked for antitrust cases. Try again.
My bad. So how many anti trust cases have there been that they lost?
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Apple should have? Apple surely did, that’s likely part of why Apple was never able to reach a direct licensing agreement with Qualcomm. Apple and Qualcomm had some other, now expired, agreements. But they never had a direct licensing agreement.
Then they should have made an agreement before using their IP
 
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My bad. So how many anti trust cases have there been that they lost?

  • In April 2017 Qualcomm and Blackberry had a binding arbitration case. Qualcomm lost and now owes $940 million to Blackberry. Since it didn't go to court, details are limited. What we do know is it was related to royalty rebates due to Blackberry over the number of devices sold. Which sounds eerily similar to what Apple is complaining about (with Apple winning a preliminary $1 billion against Qualcomm just recently).
  • In June 2018 Qualcomm was fined $1.2 billion by the EU for antitrust issues arising from Qualcomm paying Apple money to ensure exclusivity in using Qualcomm modems. Just a week ago Qualcomm lost another part of their antitrust case by trying to prevent the handing over of data to the EU regarding their antitrust case.
  • In October 2017 Qualcomm was fined $774 million by Taiwan's Fair Trade Commission for overcharging royalties for their cellular modems and IP. Qualcomm struck a deal with Taiwan and had their fine "reduced" to $93 million in exchange for investing $700 million over 5 years into Taiwan's tech sector. Several companies are still protesting this decision as Qualcomm wasn't forced to change all their licensing practices.
  • In December 2016, South Korea fined Qualcomm $854 million for antitrust issues surrounding modem and IP royalty/licensing. Prior to this Qualcomm was fined $243 million way back in 2009 over kickback issues to cell manufacturers to use Qualcomm modems exclusively. This fine was lowered slightly to $200 million just last month.
  • In February 2015 Qualcomm accepted a penalty of $975 million in China over violating anti-monopoly laws over - you guessed it, royalties and licensing related to modems and related IP.
  • The FTC in the US just wrapped up a trial (now awaiting a decision) accusing Qualcomm of antitrust practices related to their modems and licensing practices.
  • Apple and Qualcomm start their trial today regarding, again, over payment of royalties.

And despite all of this people still have the nerve to think Qualcomm is in the right?
 
As I understand it, Cook didn't have any real issues with Qualcomm until AAPL decided to move their iPhone product line (so) Upscale, starting with the iPhone X.

Prior to that, there was NO real rift between the two companies.

Is that correct ?
 
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