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Apple Walks Back iPhone 13 Display Repair Restriction That Disabled Face ID
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I remember those days, clones absolutely killed Apple machines when it came to price performance ratio.
Obviously apple was just testing the water to see how much they could get away with… seems similar to how the UK government operates lol ?
They must have had some technological reason for adding that microcontroller in the first place surely?
I suspect the use of it to kill Face ID was an added bonus for them.
Quite bizarre behaviour though.
I suspect the use of it to kill Face ID was an added bonus for them.
Quite bizarre behaviour though.
Apple could tell MacRumors members to jump off of a bridge and their response would be: “How high? Should I be wearing my Apple Watch when I jump? Should I activate an accelerometer app?”
Honestly I just want apple to walk back the repair just so people stop whining about it.
Most the people who complain about repairs only being done by apple certified locations don't even like apple and have no interest in apple.
Most the people who complain about repairs only being done by apple certified locations don't even like apple and have no interest in apple.
You all talk on here as if you know that you are going to break them at some point.Just look after your iPhones.I’ve never broken an iPhone screen in 11 years of owning them 🤷♂️
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The possible reasons why Apple walked this back are both numerous and now moot.
I don't care WHY they walked it back, or WHY it was there in the first place.
I'm just glad they did.
Complaints and reports apparently do work in this, strange new Apple with fat laptops and old ports and expandable towers and smoking fast chips.
I don't care WHY they walked it back, or WHY it was there in the first place.
I'm just glad they did.
Complaints and reports apparently do work in this, strange new Apple with fat laptops and old ports and expandable towers and smoking fast chips.
Everyone can cry victim, but there's also the black market of stolen phones that Apple is fighting against. Not everything is about "you", sorry to say. ?
You can see it as greed, but I see it as Apple trying to build a reputation for the Mac experience. We all know how painful Windows is across a myriad of PC vendors. It's a different experience with each vendor, and simplicity is not one of its attributes. Apple has every right to control that experience, and if licensees are not delivering that simple, clean, familiar experience, why should Apple continue down that path?
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Are you a bot or paid by Apple to write comments like that? It's such an audacious attempt to spin this into some positive PR for Apple.
Happens every other year.
Throttling on iPhone 6.
Error 53 on iPhone 6s.
True Tone on iPhone 8.
Now we've got battery and Face ID that doesn't work even with genuine OEM parts.
Most of the time, Apple walks back these policies. Sooner or later, they'll decide otherwise.
Throttling on iPhone 6.
Error 53 on iPhone 6s.
True Tone on iPhone 8.
Now we've got battery and Face ID that doesn't work even with genuine OEM parts.
Most of the time, Apple walks back these policies. Sooner or later, they'll decide otherwise.
This also has to be aimed at markets outside the US
Maybe americans don't understand, but repair prices out of warranty with Apple authorized repair shops outside the US are plain extortion. It doesn't make any sense to pay 3/4ths of the price of a new model just to replace a battery or screen.
Something tells me Apple keeps its repair prices low in the US to avoid legislation
Maybe americans don't understand, but repair prices out of warranty with Apple authorized repair shops outside the US are plain extortion. It doesn't make any sense to pay 3/4ths of the price of a new model just to replace a battery or screen.
Something tells me Apple keeps its repair prices low in the US to avoid legislation
I'm glad to see that Apple has reacted the massive, worldwide public backlash regarding the iPhone fix. It's too bad it takes this major stress & heartburn to get what's right & correct for the consumer to occur. Come on, Apple and put an end to this modus operandi for the company. What would Steve say? How about Tim? How about the board?
Does this mean that you can now use stolen iPhones for parts to fix a smashed screen?
I get that nobody wants this restriction, but the reasoning should be obvious: Without it, a man in the middle attack is possible between Face ID sensor and the rest of the phone.
Ultimately, that's going to need some sort of fix. Hopefully not something this restrictive, but still: the user needs to be able to trust that their hardware hasn't been changed under them. Backing down on this renders the problem unsolved.
Ultimately, that's going to need some sort of fix. Hopefully not something this restrictive, but still: the user needs to be able to trust that their hardware hasn't been changed under them. Backing down on this renders the problem unsolved.
The only reason Apple is now doing it is because it got caught!
Was it a good decision to put in this protection? No!
But are they doing the "right" thing? Yes.
But it shouldn't have done it in the first place as it got called out on it and now Apple's PR is kicking in so Apple has no other choice but backtrack and allow the fix.
Was it a good decision to put in this protection? No!
But are they doing the "right" thing? Yes.
But it shouldn't have done it in the first place as it got called out on it and now Apple's PR is kicking in so Apple has no other choice but backtrack and allow the fix.
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Maybe it's a sign that Apple is starting to listen to customers. But it's too early to know for sure. Let's see if they keep it up for the next few years, and then we'll know.
Well, it sort of makes sense to have an authentication chip to detect counterfeit security devices (e.g. the touch sensor for Touch ID, or the camera for Face ID). Counterfeit devices can compromise security - either because they aren't as good or they may have hacked firmware.
And counterfeit other devices (e.g. screens, batteries) may introduce all kinds of problems. So it makes sense to try and detect them, although I would much rather the phone just alert you to their presence and maybe disable Apple-proprietary features (e.g. battery monitoring or TrueTone) that may not work on third-party parts. Going to the next step and disabling unrelated parts (e.g. FaceID for a screen, even though the FaceID hardware isn't part of the screen) is just obnoxious.
But Apple didn't want to just stop at detecting third-party parts. They decided to pair individual parts so even a genuine Apple part is treated as counterfeit if not paired using proprietary installation software. The only reason I can see for this is to try and eliminate the ability for recyclers to sell working parts scavenged from dead phones. I can't think of any other logical reason, and it's a direct slap in the face of independent repair shops worldwide.
cause its hella cheaper and the result is just as good.
Only if you do not mind going to jail for that.